mr. kevlin said there were meetings yet it was a clear complaint from one of the appellants that any outreach was greeted with silence. can you tell me about that? you know, you appear in front of us at least once a month if not twice a month and this is a regular comment from appellants. can you characterize the behavior of your client other than the fact they went through what would be typical meetings. can you comment, please, on how they might have responded to questions from individual neighbors? >> sure thing. thank you for the question, commissioner swig and i can bring up an outreach page of outreach if you would like to see it. i can characterize it for you. you know the project sponsor started with individual meetings and smaller group meetings. before you can file app application, as we know, you need to do the notice hearing. the big one with the neighborhood and that is what occurred. i wasn't with the project at the time so i'm kind of looking back myself. it appears pretty clear that after the large neighborhood meeting happened, that there wasn't really much direct conversatio