mr. kim jong il. it is our duty and our first duty under the constitution to do so. i ask this body to pass this amendment. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. the gentlewoman from california. mrs. tauscher: i could not make a bert argument for rejecting the franks amendment. let's get it right. we are investing $9.3 billion for missile defense. because we believe what the president has said is right. that we need to have defenses that are going to defeat long range, short range, and medium range systems aimed against the united states, our forward deployed troops, our allies. don't take the money from cold war legacies. we are going to lose 10,000 jobs of people cleaning up sites around the country. we need to defeat this bill because we want to invest the smartly. we don't want to follow what we have done for the last eight years which is just spend money and not have any oversight. let's get this right. let's have strong missile defense. defeat the franks amendment. the chair: the gentleman's time has expired. the question is on the amendment offered by t

mr. sigal, when kim jong-il gets his debris fun with the americans are saying about him today, and they report that, this guy named sigal went before the relations committee and said all they have to do is get some leverage on them, and then make them dependent, wouldn't they sort of have gained that out? is in that one of the reasons why they are very content to remain isolated and not be dependent? they went the opposite way when they were offered it a little way back. >> that may be but he has promised his people not just a strong country but a prosperous one by 2012. he can't do that on his own. the only way he can do that is with a political accommodation with us, south korea and japan that allows them to reallocate internal resources, get aid and investment from the outside. if he wants to give up on prosperity, i think that is trouble and i think there is no sign he has changed that few. the rhetoric remains the same so at some point i think he will come and want to deal with us. i also think he needs us for his security. he did not want to be dependent on china. his father did not want