mr. kimball said got me thinking about the whole question of herd instinct. at the beginning of this century when stokes was the secretary of this university, he was a clergyman and chose not to go to ordination. he was deacon because he felt this was quite probably a congregational institution. religion was important then. as you pointed out today, the new god is diversity. and the great thing about god and man at yale it was a contrarian work, and i think what we need to do, whether liberal or conservative, is to make the university, the academic world, free for contrarian thought again. it would be difficult, i'm sure to be a liberal at bob jones university. it's very difficult today to be a conservative here. certainly the dartmouth review proved how difficult that can be. so i would have to hear ways to make contrarian thought more possible today. >> roger? >> i think one thing is to subscribe to public lick indications like the american spectator and national review. i mean, i think -- you know, i can't remember what it costs to have a yearly subdescrip