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mr. kinsey. i think there needs to be more conducconversation with the vars groups. i would hope that my office and your organization can have a meeting. it does sound like some of those quiet and sensitive pathways, and aids memorial grove, other stuff that may not be a corporate for segway use -- but other areas, if they are well- paved, wider -- i do not have as much a concern, but others might. i was going to ask you about the number of segways in the park at any number, a maximum number, and what are the hours of use right now? >> 8 guests per one tour guide. two tours a day, one going out at 10:00, the second at 2:00, 3:00. >supervisor mar: so is there any maximum? i have the police in front of me. i guess there is the concern there would be too many segways. if it becomes too popular, there might be too many in the park. >> there is a maximum number of hours they are allowed to operate out there. there is also a maximum on the amount of space they have to store these segways in golden gate park. i think we are only looking at a maximum of one group being out a

mr. kinsey. i think there needs to be more conducconversation with the vars groups. i would hope that my office and your organization can have a meeting. it does sound like some of those quiet and sensitive pathways, and aids memorial grove, other stuff that may not be a corporate for segway use -- but other areas, if they are well- paved, wider -- i do not have as much a concern, but others might. i was going to ask you about the number of segways in the park at any number, a maximum number, and what are the hours of use right now? >> 8 guests per one tour guide. two tours a day, one going out at 10:00, the second at 2:00, 3:00.