mr. kirby. >> host: and as far as -- >> guest: yeah, i wanted to add one more point so you understand kind of what our thinking is. at at&t we have taken a policy that we don't want our employees driving and texting, so it is best practices like that that we're encouraging all of the ctia companies to take up certain standards where we don't only talk to our customers, but we also enforce those policies with our own employees. so we want to be able to walk the talk, and that is to say we've got to stop doing that ourselves and our employees and set the example for the rest of the industry to stop a tactic that i think is not safe for our young people especially. >> host: now, but some safety groups and people who have lost relatives talk about the cognitive impact and researchers of talking while driving. ctia right now is neutral on that. is that something you think the industry should come out against as well even if it's on a hands-free device because of the cognitive distraction? >> guest:

mr. kirbyarly termination fees are starting to get more attention in washington. verizon wireless recently announced that it would raise the fee on advanced devices. is at&t thinking of doing that, and is there concern that it might result in legislation or regulation on etf's? >> i understand that verizon has done so, and i am understand there has been a bill introduced. i think that in cases like this, i always say it is best to let the free enterprise system and the marketplace play out, rather than immediately react with regulation. you will find me being a proponent of letting customers have choices of devices, service plans, and even choices of etf's if that is what they would like. let's not burden the industry with additional regulation. >> how much time he's been lobbying in washington or working with congress for the fcc? >> i actually do not spend a lot of time lobbying, but i respond to their request for information. i find that the new administration has really impressed me with ho

mr. kirby, next question. tesco another question early termination fees are getting more access to washington. more the chief competitive that it would raise her easy outs on advanced devices. if at&t to get into a knot in there a concern that kind of the growing momentum may result in legislation regulation by ats. >> guest: we currently have no plans to raise transcend peace. i understand verizon had done so and i also understand there's been a bill introduced. i think that in cases like this it's always best to let the free enterprise system in the marketplace play out rather than immediately react with regulation. and so, you're going to buy me to be a proponent of letting customers have choices, choices of devices, choices of service plans and even choices of etfs if that's what they would like. look for the customers choose rather than burn the industry with additional regulation. >> host: how much time do you spend lobbying in washington or working with the converse for the fcc? >> guest: i actually don