mr. kirby: russia has effectively located the ports. we urge russia to meet its commitments under this new plan, including unimpeded exports of goods from the black see to ease the flow of goods elsewhere. we are going to be watching that closely. in ukraine today, jake sullivan and tony blinken and mark milley spoke to support to ukraine as the ukrainian people continue to stand up to russia and to inform them about a new 550 million dollars security assistance package at the biden administration authorized. this will be the 17th time the biden administration is authorized a security systems package using presidential drawdown authority since president biden took office and brings it going dollars drawdown authority alone in material insecurity systems were ukraine just since the invasion began in late february. on taiwan, i know that is on everybody's mind today. i want to reaffirm that the speaker has not confirmed any travel plans and it is for the speaker to do so, and her staff so we will

mr. kirby. so yes, the administration he reacts and condemns the verdict again for the united states. miss griner is also mr. whelan, the 2nd american in custody a, by, in moscow, by the russians. those 2 are unlawfully detained. that's the u. s. position. indeed, there had already been high level diplomatic efforts discussing a possible prisoner exchange. how likely does that seem ah, i'm not an oracle. i don't have a glass ball, but it seems that they are at least talking to each other. russians and americans. that's a good 1st step, tiny step though. there was an offer by the united states to exchange and the tourist arms dealer russian. i'm still having to booth a for miss griner and paul whelan, but the, the russians didn't react, let's say on a level the united states would have expected this, the russians to do if they would have taken this serious. so our seriously, so that the united states regards this at least the intelligence community as was the white of the administration as far as

principles just of assay and the which it put in the foundations of this architecture task news agency, mr. kirby said yesterday that mr. secretary of lincoln would try to button the whole you on the sidelines of this meeting to discuss the possible prisoners to all of britney grinder and pull whelan at some point. this happened. you had to discuss these things, but the secretary clinton. well, mister kerry must have failed to mention this to mister lincoln, because we were seated pretty close to people apart. and i didn't notice that the secretary of lincoln was in any hurried to buttonhole me or grab at my buttons. as for the person, as you mentioned, who has been convicted in the russian, the united states, i've talked about this already as a specific channel approved by our president. and whatever people might say in public, this channel shields exists and is still relevant. the americans might want to try to resolve this. have public diplomacy again, as they make loud statements about the steps that are going to take, but that's their business. that's their problem. i would even say because

also there is survey, let rob and mr. kirby was all directly with the 2 are likely to be in touch over this matter in cambodia. he said that is a possibility. had no doubt the secretary of state will be trying everything he can to get these negotiations pushed through. and mike domestically, how does all this play out for the administration? well, it's a mixed her kettle in a way because there are some within the country. you argue that any prisoners shot strauss swap would put the lives of american travellers at risk and perhaps getting them arrested. so that's, that's kind of trade can go on. but the bulk of americans would appear would be behind this type of a prisoner swap, particularly in the cases where you've got the u. s, saying very clearly at that both griner and poll whelan are wrongfully detained. so it may well be a popular move by president biden. should he get these negotiations put through and get these as american citizens back into the country? i must just as well, it's unusual for politicians to be talking publicly while these procedures are and the way that the russ

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you're asking mr. kirby about this. we didn't see these explosions, like, what happened here in this moment, what was used was developed, my understanding, two hellfire missiles, missiles developed under the obama administration is my understanding. the way they do, how they come in, there are six blades set to come in that have the capacity of chopping up one individual very horribly. >> they don't explode. >> they don't explode. there is not hundreds of pounds of explosives which is an issue during the obama administration as i covered the middle east. women, children, all of these innocent children were used as human shields. this was a way to counter that, and to use this type of secret weaponry that can go in, take out a target and get out. when people don't believe the white house when they say that counterterrorism operations are still taking place, when they say that we are still watching these regions and haven't taken our eye off the ball, we have new capabilities in the u.s. that allow us to do that without b

look, you just heard mr. kirbynce for taiwan. i guess he was forced to say something because of all of the saber rattling from china. your reaction to that? >> the u.s. position unfortunately is highly complex. our position actually is consistent which is to say we do not support taiwan independence. we also don't support china unilaterally changing the situation through the use of force. it's important to remember here, the united states doesn't diplomatically recognize taiwan. only a tiny handful of very small countries do. what we do recognize, however, is that taiwan as an autonomous actor needs to be protected from chinese aggression and that really is at the core of the taiwan relations act which in turn is the main pillar of u.s. policy towards the island. maria: so what do you make of all of the bullying coming out of the ccp, saying that the united states will pay for this trip. china also announced plans to conduct large scale military drills and missile testing around taiwan. that's going to begin tomorr

. >> mr. kirby. al sharpton.n russia, in prison, for what we think are ridiculous charges. and tried to be very strategic and not pushing where we would, at their expense, be showboating, and they're the ones in jail. but the state department and others, can you give us an update as best you can, on where those negotiations are. and i've raised that saying i've talked to the state department and the white house. and they have clearly been trying to brief people and keep people going. but not playing into putin's hands. what can you share with us, because millions of americans are concerned about britain? >> yes, sir, reverend. i can assure you that president biden is concerned about britney and whelan. i can tell you several weeks ago, reverend, we put together what we believe is a serious offer. i'm not going to go into details here on tv. and i think you can understand. we were waiting for the russians to accept and they were stalling. so we made public last week that there was this proposal on the table. they'

states of america, kirby, said at a briefing that russia was falsifying evidence about the alleged involvement of the ukrainian armed forces in the attack on the deer farm well, actually mr. yevgeny, what you were talking about is our informational counteroffensive. it is very effective. here is the case with this fake about the deer farm. why do you think the russians failed to convince the world that the armed forces of ukraine are involved in this well, actually, it seems to me that he was just drunk and they did this act in order to actively use him in psychological operations against ukraine, because he is in this story he was in first of all, it is focused on the domestic consumer, so to speak, on our people or on the international community. i think that this is just an example of such a story that is oriented in different ways to different audiences. that is, it is such a bingo story , in general, when you can impress with one story for certain audiences in ukraine and for the russian audience, this can be explained in their own way, including for the west, i will only name what main themes they put into this story, and this will precisely illustrate what they wa

mr. czar if we were just waiting. this isn't about waiting. it's about watching. >> martha: okay. very interesting back and forth there with peter doocy and john kirby.to bring in mike pompeo, former secretary state and cia director and fox news contributor, secretary. good to have you with us as always. it's good to have you joining us today. you've been watching this with us. what would you like to say about what john kirby just said and what you're hearing in there? >> well, he got some things right and some things not quite right. he was right that the strike on al-zawahiri was important. he was a bad guy. kudos to the intelligence community during my time and now after it, a lot of work done to get him and take him off of the battlefield. it's a righteous strike against a horrible man. and we can conduct a strike without troops on the ground. good stuff. overstatement is that we still have the depth and capacity of intelligence that we had before we left. that is not the case and the way that we rolled out of there. second, with respect to the taliban, i was in the middle of the discussions with the taliban. we never trusted them. they violated

mr. al zawahiri out on that balcony and the president said that when we made the decision that we avoided civilian casualties and we did. >> reporter: other intelligence confirmed that and white house john kirby is no dna evidence of his death, and the intelligence gathering and planning took place for most of the year, and this situation room meeting with the top national security officials was in early july when he was shown a model of the house, and the leader had a $25 million bounty on his head and he had moved to downtown kabul and his movement was tracked and he was spotted on the balcony when he was killed early morning sunday when a hellfire missile was launched over his head. his last address was three weeks ago and hi was more of a spiritual figurehead than operational leader in al qaeda, but the taliban now reneging on the deal known as the doha agreement that they would not harbor terrorists in afghanistan. >> there are terrorists affiliated with the haqqani network who did know, and we have been engaged with the taliban, and i will not preview any actions that we will take to ensure that the taliban is going to live up to the commitments. >> the taliban has condemned the strike,