mr. kjellberg, what about prescription drugs in denmark? >> all hospital use and hospitals are free of charge. and if prescription drugs are needed, you have a maximum copayment a year about $600. >> dr. yeh, in taiwan, how much do prescription drugs cost? >> it is covered by the nhi. but a patient has to pay some copayment up to a ceiling of about $10 u.s. dollars. >> up to 10 u.s. dollars? >> up to ten. and each year the ceiling including hospitalization, the ceiling would be $1,000 u.s. dollars. >> and ms. cheng, what is your view on the prescription drugs? >> prescription drug use in the united states in fact is low compared to total health spending. relatively speaking in europe as well as in taiwan, the percent of monies spent on drugs in terms of the total health spending is a much higher percentage. example, in the french system it's roughly 25%. in taiwan, 25% of total health spending is on drugs. so they have much greater access to drugs. that's number one. number two, the reason why the drug price -- >> i apologize, because my ti