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mr. kobach, would you be kind enough to repeat it? >> mr. kobach has been recognized to state his amendment. >> the word voting should be struck and replaced with delivery of ballots. >> okay. so on your sheet, and it's on the screen, strike voting and insert after electronic delivery of balance. >> there's been a second to the. secondary amendment. any discussion? on that clarifying amendment. hearing none, all in favor say aye ago. all of those? that amendment is adopted. we are now back to the main amendment it as amended i mr. kobach. any discussion on that amendment? all right. it's already been seconded. all in favor of the amendment as amended by mr. kobach they aye. all oppose say no. that amendment is agreed to. and i believe that's it for the voters. is there anything else in the voter section? okay, we are going to leave that section open. >> mr. chairman, if i can enter a? >> we will leave that section open up until -- you haven't worked out? >> i believe so, sir. i just wonder if we should bring down to have it printed or if i ca
mr. kobach, would you be kind enough to repeat it? >> mr. kobach has been recognized to state his amendment. >> the word voting should be struck and replaced with delivery of ballots. >> okay. so on your sheet, and it's on the screen, strike voting and insert after electronic delivery of balance. >> there's been a second to the. secondary amendment. any discussion? on that clarifying amendment. hearing none, all in favor say aye ago. all of those? that amendment is...
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mr. kobach? >> to your point, mr. chairman, the other cases don't involve airplanes, so that's why i think mr. bopp is exactly right. we do want to specify under these circumstances aircraft can be used without a warrant and, indeed, we should be using them without a warrant to patrol the borders. >> oh, other discussion? and i'm going to let you have the last word. is there any other discussion on this amendment in. >> yes, ma'am, from alaska. >> debbie jocelyn from alaska. when i first read this, i interpreted the unwarranted word a little differently and not necessarily -- >> yeah. that's the legal term. this is without a warrant as opposed to the colloquial term, i think. >> okay. >> mr. schoenbalm, do you have anything? >> basically the same thing. i live 500 feet from the shoreline, and i don't want drones flying over me house. i think that would be ridiculous. we have islands like alaska, hawaii, guam. the idea that all of a sudden we have the this exception of patrolling -- and i agree with the delegate from p
mr. kobach? >> to your point, mr. chairman, the other cases don't involve airplanes, so that's why i think mr. bopp is exactly right. we do want to specify under these circumstances aircraft can be used without a warrant and, indeed, we should be using them without a warrant to patrol the borders. >> oh, other discussion? and i'm going to let you have the last word. is there any other discussion on this amendment in. >> yes, ma'am, from alaska. >> debbie jocelyn from...
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mr. kobach? >> to your point, mr. chair, the other cases where warrantless searches are involved don't involve airplanes and that is why i think that mr. bob is right. we want to specify under these circumstances aircraft can be used without a warrant, and we should be using them without a warrant to control the voters. >> other discussion? and i'm going to let you have the last word. any discussion on this amendment? yes, ma'am, from alaska. >> debbie johnson from alaska. i want to say when i first read this on the interpreted the unwarranted word in differently -- >> that is a legal term, without a warrant as opposed to the colloquial term i think. >> do you have anything? >> it's basically the same thing. i don't want drones' flying over my house. i think there would be ridiculous. we have silence like alaska, hawaii. the idea that all of a sudden we have this exception and i agree with the delegate from puerto rico that that should be struck because it means more government intrusion into private lives, and i supp
mr. kobach? >> to your point, mr. chair, the other cases where warrantless searches are involved don't involve airplanes and that is why i think that mr. bob is right. we want to specify under these circumstances aircraft can be used without a warrant, and we should be using them without a warrant to control the voters. >> other discussion? and i'm going to let you have the last word. any discussion on this amendment? yes, ma'am, from alaska. >> debbie johnson from alaska. i...
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mr. kobach from kansas. >> thank you, mr. chairman. as secretary of state of kansas k i believe that it is incredibly important to add this to our platform. this has to do with proof of citizenship at the time of voter registration which is an additional protection beyond photo id laws which we now have in almost a dozen states, true, robust photo id laws. it is a significant form of fraud. at present only two states have proof of citizenship at the time of registration, those are kansas and georgia, in effect, with the laws in effect. two other states had it, arizona and alabama. arizona's was recently struck down by the ninth circuit, which can give you an idea that it was probably a good thing. [laughter] and alabama has it in its laws but is awaiting preclearance there the obama justice department which can tell you that if this president stays in office, they'll have a very long wait. so i think it's important to republican party stand firmly behind the principle that we verify citizenship. there are a lot of other states that wou
mr. kobach from kansas. >> thank you, mr. chairman. as secretary of state of kansas k i believe that it is incredibly important to add this to our platform. this has to do with proof of citizenship at the time of voter registration which is an additional protection beyond photo id laws which we now have in almost a dozen states, true, robust photo id laws. it is a significant form of fraud. at present only two states have proof of citizenship at the time of registration, those are kansas...
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mr. kobach's amendment that all those who are in favor say aye. all opposed? the amendment has been adopted. at this time we move to mr. kempton with gr 20, same line of the text. spent appreciate your time, madam chair but i would like to thank mr. kobach for all his efforts on illegal immigration. it is a huge problem for arizona and i recognize that. and hope that he continues in his efforts. i would just make a suggestion to the same area, that we give consideration to those that are in this country illegally since childhood, due to no choice of their own, and through him proper federal immigration enforcement. that we have experienced for decades. and i would just like to add a clause there that we recognize that it is a difficult situation that our country faces. >> thank you, mr. kempton. is there a second to mr. kempton's amendment? there is a second. okay, mr. erickson. mr. dee. >> thank you. point of order, madam chair. >> yes. >> is this the amendment, because his statement was different than the amendment. spent asking for clarification. she's getti
mr. kobach's amendment that all those who are in favor say aye. all opposed? the amendment has been adopted. at this time we move to mr. kempton with gr 20, same line of the text. spent appreciate your time, madam chair but i would like to thank mr. kobach for all his efforts on illegal immigration. it is a huge problem for arizona and i recognize that. and hope that he continues in his efforts. i would just make a suggestion to the same area, that we give consideration to those that are in...
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mr. kobach? are you ready for that? >> yes, mr. chairman. there have been recent proposals coming from the far left wing of the democrat party to resurrect portions of the failed clinton gun ban including the capacity of clips and other elements that were part of that ban. congress rarely allowed that ban to expire and we shall not allow the recent incidents to allow the ban to come back one provision and a time. >> this is con-11. >> i will read it. "we condemn legislation that is intended to restrict our rights by limiting the capacity of clips or revising the bill considered clinton gun ban." >> please raise your hand if you do not have con-11. i have a typo. "otherwise restoring." >> mr. chairman? >> everybody -- not second in yeah. yet.t's not second it "revising" b g should be "restoring"? it has been moved and seconded that this amendment be agreed to. the amendment is now in front of us. discussion. hold on. yes, sir. >> would you accept a front and emmitt and changed the word "clip" to "magazine"? >> that's fine. you can use clips o
mr. kobach? are you ready for that? >> yes, mr. chairman. there have been recent proposals coming from the far left wing of the democrat party to resurrect portions of the failed clinton gun ban including the capacity of clips and other elements that were part of that ban. congress rarely allowed that ban to expire and we shall not allow the recent incidents to allow the ban to come back one provision and a time. >> this is con-11. >> i will read it. "we condemn...
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mr. kobach? kris kobach, kansas. we need maximum flexibility to deal with terrorists including the possibility of demention the places like get moe. terrorists -- like get mo. -- gitmo. a recent example, you may remember john walker lindh, among the al qaeda u.s. citizenship. they will have the right of habeas corpus as my colleague mentioned. they will have access to court review. i agree with the base sentiment of the sponsor, i think putting this statement, i would not recognize the flexibility we need in our war against terrorism. >> yes, sir? >> mr. erickson from minnesota. get closer to the mic if you can. there you go. you're in on. [inaudible] with respect colleagues on the other side, the fact is that -- how the u.s. citizens by -- drone attacks would have -- our founders spinning in their graves. we do not believe in rule by king. the fact that we have a president -- an abomination for our constitution. whether you are -- or not, the fact is -- absolute fewer corrupt absolutely. putting that kind of power i
mr. kobach? kris kobach, kansas. we need maximum flexibility to deal with terrorists including the possibility of demention the places like get moe. terrorists -- like get mo. -- gitmo. a recent example, you may remember john walker lindh, among the al qaeda u.s. citizenship. they will have the right of habeas corpus as my colleague mentioned. they will have access to court review. i agree with the base sentiment of the sponsor, i think putting this statement, i would not recognize the...