like mr. koser said, the hughes -- huge organization has larger costs. i think they've been making effort in trying to get a handle on those. i don't believe the numbers of losing the dollars should be in a contract like that. if the numbers are secret, where they get that figure from? host: -- guest: you raise a very good point. these deals get reviewed by the postal regulatory commission upfront. as you well know, what happens subsequently, it could go either way. if there is excessive bad weather for many months, that is going to drive up transportation costs. if there is some sort of rising fuel costs, imagine something like an airline strike, you never know how complex deals are actually going to play out. host: who does the postal regulatory commission report to? congress. they are an independent regulatory body. right now one of those seat is open. it is a presidential in point -- appointee. folks are wondering, is jump going to put somebody up with that spot. could the president sit in on one of the meetings in which they vote on or review one of