mr. kramer's views. >> on may 11th. >> oh, on may 11th. i think there will be something on may 11th. and i think there will be, you know, groups -- as in all cases like this you have a small active group of militants who think they can call the shots. the majority of the people in the eastern part of ukraine don't want to join russia and they want to be in the ukrainian state. i think there will be some kind of vote. i'm assuming those people who vote will be supporting the separatists and declare they want these regions to be independent, join russia, i'm not sure what the questions on the ballot are. i'm not sure that we've seen that. and russia will no doubt come out with some statement about it. i don't take this very seriously, but i think it would be a way of further destabilizing ukraine. and i think what the russians want is not to have the may 25th election either held, or if it's held regarded as legitimate. this would be part of the arsenal in sort of de-legitimizing the may 25th election. >> smart mccain. >> just to follow-up, what do you think the odds are that the may 2