mr. krana was asked to show how many medallions were revoked for this reason, and he's had all this time to come up with a number, and really, the one that he came up with was a revocation for d.u.i. and lying under oath, and what carl said, basically moral turpitude. right now is not the right time to do this. the m.t.a., in fact, has a disability program in place that, all of a sudden, it's not following. it's not honoring some of the long time negotiations and legal settlements that we have made with them. the sales program, which was supposed to be our out, a way to retire, is on hold. so because of that, i think that any revocation for not driving should also be on hold. so during the most recent trial between the sfmta and director of tag services was questioned by mr. emory on the stand, and they were discussing about the -- things about the sales program, and she said that, back then, a certain number was, i don't know if it was 300, 400 drivers chose to retire by selling their medallio