mr. kristol? guest: i think he has run -- i do not think he is on a very tight ship. i think it is his view on things. with foreign policy, we can disagree, try to stop him -- foreign policy, he is the only president we have, and some of the stuff that he has done and not done is damaging to the country. libya -- i supported that intervention and ethic i was right, and a lot of republicans did. to intervene, and then lose interest, it was too hard. there was benghazi, where we already lost interest to some degree, and now the place is in total chaos and god knows what kind of terror breeding ground it is going to be, but that is a place we intervened. that is not a war he inherited. i supported the intervention. you have to be serious once you go into somewhere. you have to expend some effort to try to see that it comes out decently. i was traveling abroad late last year, and the world thinks libya, they don't not even care about it. syria, hugely redline, an and american president, and did nothin

mr. kristol? run -- ithink he has do not think he is on a very tight ship. i think it is his view on things. with foreign policy, we can disagree, try to stop him -- foreign policy, he is the only president we have, and some of the stuff that he has done and not done is damaging to the country. that -- i supported intervention and ethic i was right, and a lot of republicans did. to intervene, and then lose interest, it was too hard. there was benghazi, where we already lost interest to some degree, and now the place is in total chaos and god knows what kind of terror breeding ground it is going to be, but that is a place we intervened. that is not a war he inherited. i supported the intervention. you have to be serious once you go into somewhere. you have to expend some effort to try to see that it comes out decently. i was traveling abroad late last year, and the world thinks libya, they don't not even care about it. syria, hugely redline, an and american president, and did nothing. , john kerry

mr. kristol? >> guest: fine, thanks. >> caller: we as democrats have been saying religiously it's the right thing to do for these children. but if your number in our democratic platform we voted god out of our platform i think four times. ms. pelosi is suffering from fornicated kind of democrat be a, a progressive disorder. and i just want to say we're sorry about that. we don't believe in god. democrats just, we voted him out. i would like to you what you think about that. thanks. >> guest: people with strong religious persuasions in both parties, and i don't think it really tells you what to do about immigration policy. there are plenty of devout christians who think we should have half a million immigrants year, plenty to think we should have 2 million immigrants a year. we should look at the house bill. i think the bill does not send anyone back automatically. if you do concrete grounds for asylum, you can stay. but again i ask the question if they're being persecuted and under is, why don't t