mr. kudlow. >> well, first of all, let me say that mr. kudlow has my vote for president.k you for those great remarks. and i completely concur with them. i would say, too, i'm not an economist, but i am a champion for families, and i'm an end user of the kind of products that we're talking about today, the family prosper by be index developed by my friends, wendy and scott. and as i listened to mr. kudlow, i'm reminded of several things. first and foremost, i think, is that we need to get rid of the misconception that conservatives are not -- are without compassion. we are truly concerned about the well being of the entire person. and we understand that that well being is mostly fostered through the family unit. and that family unit begins with strong marriages between a mom and a dad. that's the natural birth parents as much as possible. i'm adopted, so i included those people in there too. .. 1.9 for woman birthrate is significantly below the 2.1 2.1 children per woman need not just to keep your population study. this is an important topic. the family prosperity index a

larry kudlow, great guy, everybody respects him, said my plan for taxes and tax cutting is the best by far of everybody. [ applause ] >> but mr. trump, your numbers don't add up. please put up full screen number four. the education department -- you talk about cutting. the total budget for the education department is $78 billion. that includes pell grants for low income students and aid to states for special education. i assume you wouldn't cut those things. the entire budget for the epa, the environmental protection agency, $8 billion. >> okay. >> the deficit this year is $544 billion. that's more than a half trillion dollars. your numbers don't add up, sir. >> let me explain something. because of the fact that the pharmaceutical companies are not mandated to bid properly, they have hundreds of billions of dollars in waste. we don't bid properly. we don't have proper bidding procedures. the reason we don't is because they take care of all of the senators, all of the congressmen, and they don't bid. >> mr. trump -- >> excuse me. you're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars. >> no, you're not. >> of course, you are. >>

larry kudlow, great guy, everybody respects him, said my plan for taxes and tax cutting is the best by far of everybody. [ applause ] >> but mr. trump, your numbers don't add up. please put up full screen number four. the education department -- you talk about cutting. the total budget for the education department is $78 billion. that includes pell grants for low income students and aid to states for special education. i assume you wouldn't cut those things. the entire budget for the epa, the environmental protection agency, $8 billion. >> okay. >> the deficit this year is $544 billion. that's more than a half trillion dollars. your numbers don't add up, sir. >> let me explain something. because of the fact that the pharmaceutical companies are not mandated to bid properly, they have hundreds of billions of dollars in waste. we don't bid properly. we don't have proper bidding procedures. the reason we don't is because they take care of all of the senators, all of the congressmen, and they don't bid. >> mr. trump -- >> excuse me. you're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars. >> no, you're not. >> of course, you are. >>