two closing remarks, one, i think that mr. kumar highlighted the fact that -- i don't know that anyone is really going to be talking about eliminating healthy san francisco. i think the focus really will be on the employer spending requirement. i think that's the heart of this issue, and of course, you know, it made sense that there was a couple of women who i think sort of hit the nail in the head, you know, ramagai and supervisor cohen that my hope is that we're moving forward, that we're going to focus on how we expand the system we have right now. i mean, we heard from the city attorney very clearly that the local law is not preempted, that it is actually complementary and that the federal law says expressly that san francisco can do what we have done. i don't know whether it makes sense to have this council meet or not, but it is the universal health council and i would imagine that unless you change the name to the non-universal health council, that you're going to talk about expanding access, expanding coverage, not eliminati

kumar and terrance page. thank you for copping on the show tonight. >> thank you. >> let me say when i say a nice chat on the plane, we talked about voter rights. mrs.on is very concerned about voter rights as she always has been. she was my senator i can say in that area. she is very consistent, and we chatted about that before the flight attendant made me sit down. >> i think the fact that it's so important for her is she is looking into 2016. the backlash against voting rights at the state level take place, she is going to have a serious problem. >> whether she runs or not, i think she and the president recognize this is a serious problem for voters. but clarence, let me ask you. you're chicago. >> we know about voting in chicago. >> do you. >> early and often, yeah. >> i wasn't going to bring that up. >> that was my first undercover assignment back in the '70s. we'll talk about that later. >> let me go to the relationship with the president and mrs. clinton. they were rivals, and now they're friends. how does that develop in your opinion, and is that real? >> in politics, no permanent friends, no permanent enemies, just permanent interests. we s

mr. president, on a different matter, -- i'd like to say just a few words about my departing chief of staff rohif kumar who announced a few weeks back he will be leaving the senate at the end of this week. many of the members of the senate know rohif pretty well. he has been trolling the floor out here for a long time, telling us on the republican side what to do and how to do it, and he has been a constant presence at my side in just about every legislative battle we've had here in the senate for the past six and a half years. and even before that, actually when he was working for leader frist and i was over in the whip's office. so many of us could recount rohif's many talents, but as his boss, it falls on me to do it and i'm happy to do it because we have been through a lot. the first thing to say about rohif is that his mind is like a trap. he's got the answer to literally every question. and the moment you ask him. and he has usually thought through the politics of it, too. that might not sound terribly unusual, but i assure you it's rare in this business to come across somebody who combines a bri