mr. la hood that until people start paying a stiff price, i don't know if this is going to change. i know as a prosecutor, putting together a case like this is very, very difficult. just the chain of evidence and proving whose fingertips were touching the keys to carry out an attack can be difficult. what more can we do internationally? >> thank you for your question, sir. so, right after -- i'll answer your question over a period of time. right after september 11th i was sitting in a meeting with a large number of information security professionals from within the intelligence community, and the question was posed in the auditorium where there are about 250 people: when are we going to start sharing information? and the answer came back, one senior person in 50 years, and the other, another answer came back from another person, not in my lifetime. and it was very disappointing to say the least. you roll forward, 15 years, and look at where the intelligence community, at fleece my opinion, is today, it's not like that at all. today i see the intelligence community sharing informati