mr. lambert: the best explanation that i have heard is that this is all part of the power struggle. those in charge of the security services want to flexed their muscles and show that all of this -- all of these smiles and handshakes have not changed the fact that we are dealing with an enemy and we are going to treat these people as enemies and it is a reminder of who is in charge. the same thing happened under a previous president. there were these serial murders going on in tehran of intellectuals, translators anyone they did not like. the president and his ministers, so-called government, were powerless. they cannot do anything to stop it. the best i can tell is that it is a test of wills between the two sides. poor jason. a wonderful reporter, a wonderful young man. he is unfortunately the victim as are some of these other people. that, again, is one of those issues that we should be and have been discussing with the iranians and not let them off the hook on these things and i understand that when kerry and zerif met one-on-one, these came up. ms. slavin: there are important el