mr. larson will be signing books in the lobby. >> >> tonight we're focusing on best sellers. [inaudible conversations] on his two were. in kansas city wheat got together then beat to get on its own little trail we went to the mission, then the pioneer family and then we went to the scout statues and then to the huge stockyards. >> and then as a with and it's dirty people knew where it came from. we have the testers skean the book. that is what we shipped out across the country. we had so much fun in rehab great feedback along the way. that was a fun project. so now please help me to welcome back to kansas city, its united author of "the oregon trail". >> i will just do a little audio. can you hear me now? they explore welcoming me to kansas city in this gorgeous base also i want to say greedy daybooks. i imagine most of you from being from kids the city are aware of the national reputation of the store it is legendary to promote books in take bothers people have not heard of yet but this is a large crowd. had given the independent bookstores from small towns in resorts i cann

mr. larson. thank you for being here. i apologize. multiple hearings today. if i am redundant, please forgive me. i have a concern. i represent central illinois, home to some of the manufacturers of our newer type of hobby aircraft in uav technology and also home to many possible users of this technology for commercial use. i know a lot of discussion was on the exemption program that is currently being implemented and run through the faa, and part of my concerns have to do with some previous hearings like this where we talked about the exemption process moving very slowly to offer commercial exemptions to those who have applied. and now says they have sped up but we have seen is some of the older requests being limited versus some of the newer requests on what can be done with the technology that they have applied for the exemption for. and mr. whitaker, i appreciate that your process has evolved at the faa, but i think they're might be a concern where older applicants and older exemptions that were issued may need to have some of the newer flexibility that s

mr. larson will be signing books right outside in the lobby. [applause] >> tonight in booktv prime-time we are focusing on bestsellers. next up is rinker buck. he re-traveled oregon trail recently and wrote about his experiences. [inaudible conversations] >> good evening everyone. i'm vivian. thank you for joining us this evening for our events for the oregon trail. i want to tell you that this has a trail of its own with us. we got so excited when we read the book at the very beginning that we decided to do something fun with the publisher and here's what we did. we decided that we were going to take the advance copy of the book and we were going to send it on its own journey across the bookstore, the independent bookstores that rancor is traveling to honest tours on kansas city we got together with the book at the front of the store and then we took it on its own little trailing kansas city. we went to the shawnee mission, the indian mission and then we went to the pioneer family in prairie village and we took it there. then we went to old we

mr. larson, you opened the issue of registration. you mentioned picking up his smart phone at amazon. is registered. and most everything you buy today is registered, at least back to the manufacturer in some way or another. it seemsit seems to me we do not need a government registration program, but we need the government to be able to access the program that the manufacturers probably already have.have. we could spend several years trying to write regulation to accomplish that, which is probably what we will do because it is our specialty. why don't we simply say, all of these you a esses must be registered, held by the manufacturer or the seller of that and the government has the ability to access that under circumstances relating to an accident or some other incident? fairly simple,simple, but probably far too simple for her normal work around here. if you are flying this uas near significant airport there are some of airport your subject to a fine or jail time. and if you're flying near an active fire your subject to a fine and jail fine. that would immediately educate everyone in

mr. larson for his comments come i ask unanimous consent et al. members have five legislative days to revise and extend their remarks and include extremist material for the record of this hearing. without objection, so ordered. i would like to yield to mr. larson for his opening remarks. >> thank you for holding today's hearing on insurance aviation safety in an era of unmanned aircraft systems. i'm pleased we're here to address this important and timely topic of the safety of uas international airspace. a number of unmanned aircraft being sold in the u.s. is staggering. going to on one industry group e number sold this year could reach 700,000, a 63% increase over last year. other reports suggest that figure will soon reach 1 million. it will continue to grow so the natural question becomes who are flying these million plus unmanned aircraft? many as record you are responsible and safe users. these include serious hobbyist such as those represented by the academy of model aeronautics who are here today and commercial users with a financial intere

mr. larson. thank you for being here. i apologize. multiple hearings today. so if i'm redundant with any of my questions, please forgive me. i have a concern. i represent central illinois, home to some of the manufacturers of our new types of hobby aircraft and uav technology and also home to many possible users of this technology for commercial use. and i know a lot of discussion was on the exemption program that's currently being implemented and run through the faa. and part of my concerns have to do with some previous hearings like this where we talked about the exemption process moving very slowly to offer commercial exemptions to those who have applied. and now, since they've sped up, what we've seen is some of the older requests being limited -- being limited versus some of the newer requests in what can be done with the technology that they've applied for the exemption for. and mr. whitaker, i appreciate that your process has evolved at the faa, but i think there might be a concern where older applicants and exemptions that were issued may need to have

mr. larson for his comments, i ask unanimous consent that all members of five legislative days to amend their thank you chairman for holding today's hearing on ensuring aviation safety in an era of unmanned aircraft. we are here to address this important and timely topic of the safety of drones in airspace. the number being sold in the u.s. is staggering. according to one group, the number sold could reach 700,000. that's a 63% over last year. other reports suggest that figure will reach 1 million. it will continue to grow. in astral question becomes, who are flying these million plus unmanned aircraft question many are responsible and safe users. it includes serious hobbyists such as those represented by the academy of model aircraft. unfortunately they also include people who are not familiar with the rules of aviation or concept of aviation safety. there are 600 reports of an ear passes between aircraft and throne. that tells us what we need to do more to reduce our likelihood of a drone ending up in line of an aircraft carrying hundreds of people on board. it's like letting people drive r

mr. larson. >> thank you, mr. chairman. chief hubbard, in your testimony you said the forest service and the department of interior are developing a summary of the '015 field season and will make recommendations. when can we expect to see that summary? >> the summary of the incursions? >> yes. >> we have that available now. >> okay. that's available now. and are you making recommendations from that summary? >> no, that's just capturing what we've encountered and we turned to faa and others for recommendations. >> so one of the instances in california you reported that five aircraft were delayed for 20 minutes. is that right? >> yes. >> what impact can a 20-minute delay have on your ability to suppress a fire? what can happen in 20 minutes? >> in back country fire, not a lot. it gets bigger. in interface fires where you have life and property at risk it of course depends on the situation but it could be dramatic. >> define dramatic? loss of property for sure. and sometimes putting lives at risk. >> so after we get a chance t

mr. larson did since i wasn't here to get the correct pronunciation. i will talk call your doctor came back again. can you give me an idea of how maybe transponder technology can be helpful in avoiding some of the collisions and some of the issues that i think the faa is facing right now and as policymakers? >> if unmanned aircraft are going to be flying if they level of transporting aircraft or up with general aviation aircraft in order to be seen they need to have some kind of transponder. >> wouldn't that transponder technology work at lower level flights? >> it could work as well. i'm not sure how many helicopters have that installed. but it's a possibility. the problem though is that the cost of these transponders including a dft are pretty expensive and they consume power and they are heavy. so for a lot of these larger aircraft it makes sense and should be absolutely required but for smaller drones may be a couple of pounds. >> the technology for lightweight transponder technology does not currently exist for the newer versions of uav's? >> ther

mr. larson of washington state. >> anyone can answer this question.'m curious, are we still exploring with the outer limits of what constitutes equivalent of a attack against the u.s. what we're looking at cyber attacks? what would be the equivalent cyber attack that would warrant the kind of an size of response that we might do an attack against the u.s. >> we have defined nx event of significant consequence it has to include a loss of life, significant damage to property, serious adverse foreign policy implications or complications, or serious economic impact. that is a broad statement in each of them have to be addressed as an individual act. that is why there's no establish established redline on what we say this constitutes the attack. the question we are often asked is when does the cyber attack trigger an act of war? each of those would be discussed depending on the type of attack and what its consequences were. as of this point we have not assessed that any attack on us has been assessed as an attack of war. >> can you address and be more spec

mr. larson, you opened the issue of it registration, mr. farenthold picked it up. he mentioned picking up his smart phone and amazon. it's registered. most everything you buy today is registered at least back to the manufacturer in some way or another. it seems to me we don't need a government registration program, but we need the government to be able to access the registration program that the manufacturers probably already have. it would be very simple to do that. of course we could spend several years trying to write a regulation to accomplish that, which is probably what we'll do because that's oiler specialty. -- because that's our special tifment why don't we simply say all these u.a.s.s must be registered, held by the manufacturer or seller of that, and the government has the ability to access that under circumstances relating to an accident or some other incident? fairly simple but probably far too simple for our normal work around here. the question was just raised bout airspace at an airport. we can go back and forth with trying to define what geofencing

mr. larson for his opening remarks. >> thank you, chairman lobiondo for holding this hearing on aviation safety. i'm pleased we're here to address this timely topic of the safety of uas in the national airspace. the number of unmanned aircraft being sold in the u.s. is staggering. according to one industry group, the number of uas sold this year could reach 700,000. that's a 63% increase over last year. other reports suggest that figure will soon reach one million. and it will continue to grow so the natural question becomes who are flying these million plus unmanned aircraft? many, as we're going to hear, are responsible and safe users. these include serious hobbists such as those represented by the academy of model aeronautics. but unfortunately, they also include people who are not familiar with the rules of aviation or concepts of aviation safety. there are 600 plus reports of near passes between conventional aircraft and drones so far this year. that tells us what we need to do more to reduce the likelihood of a drone ending up in the flight path of a commercial airliner with hundre

mr. leonard, we are asking people to give comments and questions on facebook. claire larson writes in this morning on facebook saying there was a movie called "andersonville" and asking you if it was an accurate portrayal of the legal proceedings that followed the war and if it accurately conveyed the true nature of the internment. >> reporter: there's two films about us. tnt did a 1996 mini series about the prison that focuses on prison life and dramatizes a fairly early infamous moment in the prison's operation. the camp raiding and the prosecution and execution of a group of prisoners known as the raiders. separately, there was a stage play in 1970 that was turned into a pbs film starting william shatner called "the andersonville trial." that was a dramatization of henry wurts. it drilled down to something -- it's a 14-month story and they drill down to something that is over and done one month before the worst moments of the prison's history. it's a very dramatic story. the story of the raiders ultimately has a very nice, neat, narrative arc. a beginning, a middle -- fin