mr. leiter. >> well, i certainly agree with mr. bamford that this is an issue and it's very important that as this information is initially collected and as it is retained by places like the national counter-terrorism center, that there is very rigorous oversight. and i certainly can't defend issues of warrantless wiretaps. in this case, you are talking about information that is collected lawfully, and then etained fo terrism ppose at the same time, as ronald reagan said, we should trust then verify. there needs to be a very, very rigorous set of controls to make sure that there are internal executive branch controls, that this information is protected adequately, and that there is outside review by the senate and house intelligence committers, and where appropriate, the foreign intelligence surveillance courts or other courts. that is build built-in to these guidelines. >> warner: a quick final response from you, mr. james bamford. do you have any information or any reporting that suggests those safeborders arenn place? >> i have