mr. lipinski for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i thank all the witnesses for their testimony. obviously very critical issue here we're talking about fire safety. in the written testimony of most mr. o'connor and mr. mitchell, you both highlight one area in which you think the usfa can do more is in training. and mr. o'connor, you specifically mentioned that usfa has been slow to implement congress's implementations, that the usfa partner organizations have established fire training programs. so i want to ask mr. o'connor, can you tell me -- tell us more about iaff training programs and how they can help the u.s. fire academy expand the reach of its classes. >> well, i think that in all fairness to the academy, part of the issue is resources that we have talked previously. but in our view, the national fire academy is a wonderful resource for people that are actually able to be in residence there and actually traveled to emmitsburg, it's wonderful training. and the outreach of the training academies has been magnificent. but i thin

mr. lipinski. now i'm going to open it up to a second round for those who would like to ask additional questions. i recognize myself for five minutes. there has been a lot of discussion about resources. and i understand that over the course of a number of different years that the authorization level has been up to $70 million for the usfa. and then the appropriations actually came in much lower than that. and i think in the 2013 house funding bill, basically it provides $42.4 million, which is right about the same level the request from the president and his budget. i know that's not the level you would like, but i do think that this hearing has been very informative to see what the priorities of the usfa and how we can support your endeavors in very tough budgetary times. i think that providing an authorization level that is much higher than when really we can afford i think is a little bit irresponsible, but i do want to continue to go down and see what priorities and what we can do to make sure

mr. lipinski. now going to open after a second round for coastal would like to ask additional questions and i now recognize myself for five limits. there's been a lot of discussion about resources, and i understand that over the course of a number of different years the authorization level has been up to $70,000,000.4 busbee 13 and in the appropriations actually came in much lower than that, and i think in the 2013 house funding bill, basically it's providing $42.6 million, which is right about the same level of the request from the president and his budget did i know that that's not the level that you would like, but i do think that this hearing has been very informative to see what the priorities and how we can support your endeavors in very tough budgetary times. i think providing an authorization level that is much higher than we can afford i think is a little bit irresponsible, but i do want to continue to go down and see what priorities we can do to make sure we are getting the support that i

mr. lipinski: it will produce enormous value for the relatively small cost of $19 million. the only results promising are the first 21 grantees, 19 are pursuing commercialization of their technology and hopefully future american jobs. chairman wolf, i understand this bill does not provide line items for n.s.f. funding but i hope you agree the icore funding will help make the best use of american research funding to boost american innovation and job growth. i yield to the chairman. mr. wolf: thank you. i thank the gentleman for his support for federal science agencies and his advocacy for programs like this one which ensures that taxpayer research and investment provide opportunities in terms of jobs and import and export opportunities. i will be happy to work with the gentleman to ensure that icore and related efforts receive the appropriate amount of support. mr. lipinski: reclaiming my time, i thank the gentleman for his response and his commitment to this program and i look forward to working with you on the -- on ensuring success of the icore program and increases in n.

mr. lipinski, for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i think all the witnesses for the testimony. obviously, very critical issue here, talking about fire safety. end of the investment of both mr. o'connor and mr. mitchell, you both highlight one area in which you think the usfa can do more in training. and mr. o'connor, you specifically mentioned that usfa has been slow to input congresses recommendations, that the usfa partner with organizations and establish fire training programs. so want to ask mr. o'connor, can you tell me, tell us more about iaff training programs and how they can can help the u.s. fire academy expand its reach? >> i think in all fairness to the academy, part of the issue is resources, we talked previously. but interview the national fire academy -- people were able to be in residence there and actually travel to emmitsburg. it's wonderful training. and the outreach of state training academies has been magnificent. but i think this committee and congress, or use authorization, recognize there's other opportunities