mr. lipton said -- at any rate, i cannot remember. in a systemic failure like that, where ever it leads, people should be accountable. if it is more the whole civil needs to be re -- revamped and reanalyzed the president came out with that admitting it was a basic failure. what is your opinion, mr. lipton. >> guest: i think it is true there really needs to be account in government and the public hastation if there is a failure that can be clearly identified the person in charge of that area should be responsible for it and appropriate action should be taken. so i'm not suggesting that someone shouldn't, there shouldn't be someone, shouldn't be fired, perhaps if that is appropriate. what i'm saying only at the moment, we don't yet know, for example did the nsa fail to sufficiently pass on the information to the national counter terrorism center? or was it at the national counterterrorism center they to properly connect the dots? we can't, at moment, i don't know if the president figured this out but hasn't said it at the moment we don'

mr. lipton said -- at any rate, i cannot remember.n a systemic failure like that, where ever it leads, people should be accountable. if it is more than one director, more than one department head -- the whole system needs to be revamped. the president admitted it was a basic failure. guest: i think it is true there needs to be accountability in government. the public has an expectation that if there's a failure that can be clearly identified, the person in charge of that area should be responsible. i'm not suggesting that someone should not be fired, if that is appropriate. at the moment, we do not yet know. did the nsa failed to pass on the information? or was it at the counter- terrorism center that they failed to connect the dots? i do not know is, president has figured this out yet. at the moment, we do not know where to point their finger. that is why we're in this pause period. either through the presidential investigation, or in congress, i am sure the public will know. reporters are asking the same questions. we hope to answer