reports that mr. liuimply stole intellectual property from one of america's most well-regarded scientists. david smith of duke university. >> we know that the chinese have a shopping list of intelligence and technology that they target every year. we know that the research he took from duke university was on that collection list, and we know that certain government officials and operatives met with him while he was in the united states. they came in and took pictures and measurements of all the equipment and sent it back to china. >> laura: take measurements and send it back to china. joining me for a reaction is dean cheng, senior research fellow at the heritage foundation's asian studies center. this is nothing new but it still shocks me. he comes to duke university, lawfully here. suddenly he is a big billionaire back home and he has cutting edge technology from dr. smith. >> yep. well, he is -- the -- mr. liu basically said he came to duke university specifically to work with that professor. he had be