mr. lochbaum? >> i did. >> in it he wrote that despite the recommendses by the national academies, that spent fuel rods be stored in pools on site, that they should be arranged -- place old cool fuel rods next to newer, hotter fuel rods, to prevent hot spots and fires in the event the pools lost enough water to cover the rods. that despite that recommendation in 2006, there's no such action -- this is a quote -- no such action has been taken either in the u.s. or japan. mr. borchardt said they had them. so, now, i have two questions. one, dr. bun is an expert at hard involved -- harvard. is he wrong? >> mr. b.p. is wrong. there was a correction two or three days later, saying there have been measures taken to address some of the concerns he raised in his op-ed, we referred to it as a checkerboard pattern of fuel. precisely what he was talking about, and second as part of the post-9/11 event. >> well, that answer that. one last thing. i have 20 second left but i can ask the question and you can take

mr. lochbaum, and the opinion -- any opinion? >> they are as good as the ones in the japan on march 10th. >> i do not know what that means. >> we would equally be in dire straits if we've were faced with that kind of disaster. they're the same on paper. in practice, we would come up short. >> i would add that the japanese responded as we would with our emergency plan. they evacuated within the 12.5 mile or the 20 kilometer radius. they put sheltering in the place. they did precisely the type of actions and recommendation we would take to protect public- health and saved. that is the state and local officials are acting on recommendations from the plant operator and overseen by the nrc has made that decision. >> fukushima is not as dense and area of as many of ours. indian point was brought up as an example. let's say -- there are millions and millions of people living within 50 miles of that plant. let's say you are a parent or a kid at school going the opposite way of exiting. do you think we need to improve on what we are doing