mr. loehrl. we're going to begin -- i'm going to go last and my chairman is going to go first. we're going to take 8 minutes, maybe a little more each and we'll do a second round as well. so with that, mr. thibault. >> great. thank you, gentlemen, for coming up here and testifying in front of the commission. much appreciated. i want to get a couple of things out of the way early. i'm really focused on all of you but i'm especially focused on the comments made by general pillsbury. the secretary and the army, my perspective, are absolutely to be commended for addressing some of the short-term needs with what may be intermediate-term solutions but nonetheless the actions to address staffing and training of the eyes and ears on the ground. i want to get that out on the record. the secretary has identified staffing as a priority. no overnight solution in bringing qualified people. but that's very positive and maybe we'll talk a little bit more about it. general pillsbury, out of those five general of