siegel and mr. lomax, mr. lomax, you've discovered, no surprise, this network of foundations and activists who seem to engage in what we might call and which you've called advocacy science, which i don't think is science at all. you might take a swing at how do we counter this bias that you have discovered, why it is not scientific, and what we can do about it. >> so i've mentioned in my testimony that i live in colorado. i live in denver, which is a major -- >> yah for colorado. >> it is good to see you congressman. i have the great privilege of working alongside and interacting with on a daily basis the men and women of the oil and gas industry in colorado who make the oil and gas industry run. geologists, engineers, other technical experts. because the oil and gas business is fundamentally a scientific enterprise. without the science of geology, you don't know where to get the oil and the gas and you don't know how to bring a well to bring the oil and gas to the surface to turn it into the energy and consume