mr. lowery? host: mr. lowry? when people started reading the bible in the vernacular, they all imagined themselves, including england and subsequently us, as the ,uccessor to ancient israel which was a nation, not a modern nation, but on the border of has its israel, own laws, sense of togetherness and mission, and this notion really put an imprint on the modern western world and the nations that make it up. talking toent time evangelical voters only about their support for president trump, but isn't the evangelical right acting like a controlling elite in contemporary america? guest: i don't -- i don't see that at all. i think part of the support for president trump is -- you read , i heard earlier that he is going to protect them from controlling elites. the evangelical support for in that more a populist sense. most evangelicals that i encounter and talk to, they support trump, but they are fully aware of his flaws and the downsides of how he conducts it isf and what he says, just they do not see any alternati