. >> and then, mr. lum, again, remind me that i understand that bernal has a higher standard for conformity. is it 25% reduction? >> it's actually a -- well, it's a very difficult code to administer because you have to conceptualize the largest building possible, and then, you're supposed to subtract the 750 square feet from it. so it's complicated. >> so -- but for a nonplanner, unlike my fellow commissioner, what is -- >> oh, what is that reduction? >> yeah. >> you would -- theoretically, without the mass reduction requirement, you would be about 3,000-some-odd square feet of space. so if this was r-2 zoning, you're at 2300. 2385, i believe. >> and you guys are at? >> we are currently at 28? >> we're at 2387, and we're allowed 2356 total. >> okay. thank you. >> thank you. >> week after week, we hear appeals. very rarely do we see project sponsors actually meet and try to -- to resolve issues, and unfortunately, living in as dense of a city like san francisco as we do, we are going to have these issues. gi