i have a question for mr. lund. refresh my memory, who attended the pre-application meeting that you held? >> the appellant, the neighbors across the street, and we met subsequently with the appellant. >> how many people? >> we have a list here -- there were at least five. and some of them are here in the room tonight. wanda -- there were seven people who attended the meeting. >> you have a list? >> yes, we have a list and that is part of the submittal that we included. >> yes, we have the list right now. >> and at that meeting you presented the revised design. >> yes, we did. >> for example, the neighbor across the street, the ones that were complaining last time about the fourth floor, we modified and removed a window specifically because of their request to do that. they were very aware of that. as i said, we pet with the appellant, modified part of -- we went down into the first floor and looked at his view and took pictures of it, modified the project, and created open railings and moved the deck back specifica