mr. lyon special representative with the u.n. mission in libya. in fact, the u.n. mission outside of lib y they're operating outside of the country because it's too dangerous. for thou they'll extend the mission for until the end of the month because things are is to fluid right now. >> james bays, thank you very much indeed. >> rescuers in ukraine are racing to save the lives of 32 miners trapped in a coal mine in donetsk. the gas explosion has left one dead and 14 injured. the conflict has seen production fall by more than a fifth but they continue to supply coal to factories owned by ukraine's richest man. but naturally high levels are saying it's one of the world's most dangerous mines. in november 2007, 101 people were killed there. and 57 were killed in another incident a month later. do we have any more updates of the progress of the rescue mission? >> the mine here in donetsk is one of the largest in the country. that's why the casual rates can be quite high. this has been a very stressful date for families. first families were told that 30 people were kill

the priorities, mr. lyons afghanistan is still struggling. >> general campbell saying we've got to slow down the redeployment back to the united states. he went to afghanistan early last year, took over the job was vice chief of staff of the army, took over the army with the foresite that knowing pulling out by 2016 was too early. >> do you think it very well could happen? >> if ghani wants u.s. forces there, then our president could say welt look, this is what this president wants to do. taking afl the troops, you are removing half the fracture infrastructure, half the capability. >> if we don't stay past 2016, mr. rosenberg, how secure are the forces? >> if you say go deal with it on your own they're not ready. feeding supplying their own troops isth credibly difficult. big unit miefers on a whole lot of things they're not there yet. a lot to overcome, a lot of their deficits can't be overcome in a year or two maybe. if we get up and go you're going to have an army that piece of it will probably fall apart i

because they are going to be the lyon's share of the total life cycle cost of the airplane. >> and mr. secretary, i don't argue with you, in the phase of an aircraft, we are talking about armament and how to change the aircraft. now some of that was with aviation or guts but a lot of that is what we hung off the airplane and today it is changing quicker and yearly and in advancement and how we detect them and how far they can get into the battlefield without being seen. those are the things that are our young airmen should be worried about because the advancements are coming so quickly. for about 50 years those advancements weren't there. it was just -- if we were faster than you and we could shoot first, then we beat you. >> i'm with you, and i'm very concerned that we keep up in the electronic warfare field which i think you are referring to in

dean lyons: are there any tweet mr. stricker: you --tweets you regret? gabriel: that is a great question. maybe because i am a cautious person no, there are none, but i stand by them. dean lyons: this is relatively recent -- i thought it was harmless, my daughter had a civilization's history textbook and i picked it up and started going through it and it mentioned that as best experts can tell, christ was not worn in the year zero. he was born in the year 5 bc, that was the best guess. i tweeted i just learned this, am i the last two? -- the last to know? the birthdate of christ is an important date for a lot of people in the world, and i got a response. [laughter] it was one of those things that got a little more response than i expected. [laughter] gabriel: if it makes you feel any better, we had dr. neil degrasse tyson out in the bay area area last week, and he came by the office and i was asking him about an extraordinary exchange he had -- it have seen the -- i think it was last christmas, and he tweeted out that on this day, december 25, we celebrat

lyon accordingly. -- line accordingly. i would urge my colleagues to vote no. rollcall vote is requested. >> mr. grassley. >> no. >> mr. sessions. >> no. >> mr. crapo. >> no. >> mr. toomie. >> no. >> mr. corker. >> no. >> mr. sanders. >> aye. >> misstep and mr. warner. >> aye. >> mr. kane. >> mr. chairman. >> no. >> the yays are 16, the nays are 6. >> that amendment is adopted. this is a democrat side-by-side. >> i was told you wanted to wait. >> we are ready. >> have you got to see the side-by-side? >> no. none of us have. >> why don't we wait and do it with the side-by-side. senator enzi: we will move that down further in the list so everyone can review the side-by-side. [inaudible] senator enzi: the next amendment is the senator stevanbenow amendment. >> i have had a chance to look at the reserve fund side-by-side amendment. the way i look at it, it is identical to my amendment >> will you talk into the microphone. senator sanders: it concludes the language without raising new revenue. we are agreeing with your basic tenants. we are making it deficit neutral. senator portman: i would be happy to support the alternat

very attentive to sustainment costs because they are going to be the lyon's share of the total life cycle cost of the airplane. >> and mr. secretary i don't argumentu with you, in the phase of an aircraft, we are talking about armament and how to change the aircraft. now some of that was with aviation or guts but a lot of that is what we hung off the airplane and today it is changing quicker and yearly and in advancement and how we detect them and how far they can get into the battlefield without being seen. those are the things that are our young airmen should be worried about because the advancements are coming so quickly. for about 50 years those advancements weren't there. it was just -- if we were faster than you and we could shoot first, then we beat you. >> i'm with you, and i'm very concerned that we keep up in the electronic warfare field which i think you are referring to in that some of our potential opponents have made advances in that area, enabled by the spread of technology around the world and so if we're going to keep the advantage we've historically had, we need to keep up in those areas. so i am compl

lyons, al jazeera's national security contributor, a retired army major and truman fellow. and reporter from the "new york times" and former afghan correspondent for "the times." great to have you with us. mr rosen burg in your local article you say ashraf ghani offers hope for the president. how optimistic should we be for this meeting? >> ashraf ghani is the leader president obama wanted. tes technocratic gets his hands into the detail doesn't need a lot of chitchat. he's not like hamid karzai, who didn't really want to deal with the law. he runs a week government. the past summer the election was marred by fraud, there was an electoral crisis. >> john kerry had to go there in person to negotiate a deal. you have two different sides coming together in this government. they don't really get along. that's an inherent weakness. hamid karzai's government for all its corruption, was basically unified. everything that was not taliban was unified. that commitment was not there. that's a worry for the u.s. >> the relationship is slightly better. priorities is the same. afghanistan is struggling. >> no question. >> violence is on the rise. that's why you have the general saying that possibly we n