mr. macgovern.n fact, i remind the audience that my first of ten proposed bills is single term of office to replace professional career politicians. the gridlock is make believe to lead the people to believe that we have two parties. we only have one party variously called demorepublican and republicratic. now, if we named the parties donkey capitalist and elephant capitalist, we suddenly wouldn't have two parties. because then the chips are down, they are all devoted to free enterprise. that is the right answer or not. >> moderator: mr. sanders, gridlock. sanders: i think the answer to the gridlock issue is that congress is way, way out of touch with the needs of ordinary americans because what goes on in washington is heavily influenced -- especially since citizens united -- by wall street and big money interests. you have wall street right now and virtually all republicans and some democrats, for example, saying, well, we've got to do deficit reduction. but to do it, we've got to cut social secur

mr. macgovern? macgovern: i am strongly opposed to the affordable care act i think it's a huge mistake in the midst of a massive recession throwing people out of work and the economy on its knees to make a move to take over one-third of the economy and with respect to it, to me it was an absurdity. a 2700 page bill that you had to vote for it before you read it. a bill in which 15,000 agents are being hired to force americans to buy insurance where many of the religious freedom rights of this country have been taken away or attempted to take away i think it is a huge mistake. i believe and mr. sanders believes it doesn't go far enough. i believe it went entirely in the wrong direction. the 10 million people we ought to find ways to get an insurance and get them covered and not mess up the current system in this country. moss: i'm in favor of single pair. to me it only means that medicine and related needs for a birthright, and i blame the incumbency not only for not having provided this for all our t

mr. macgovern. cgovern: well, now having looked at this matter carefully, though i must say it was new to me because i'm from windsor vermont, the issue of the of 35 is not one that we are all familiar with. so, i went around the neighborhood and i spoke to people on both sides of the question and decided that in my view it is in the best interest of the community and the state not to support the of 35 coming into burlington. right now you have the f-16 flying and as i understand, they will continue to fly for another ten or more years and that will give the guard, which i support very strongly, the time to transition into other missions. i believe this is a deeply flawed proposal and the air force will make the decision and will not be coming to vermont. >> moderator: mr. moss? moss: i am not opposed to the answer as much as i am opposed to in putting it in burlington. a licensed professional engineer i can tell you this. the f35 boat designed to carry nuclear matters, therefore it has on board at l