mr. mackenzie. mr. campbell? >> thank you, mr.chairman, ranking member watt, chairman goodlatte and ranking member conyers. appreciate you giving centurylink the opportunity to testify before the subcommittee as relatively new entrant into the video marketplace. i would echo mr. dodge's testimony centurylink is not seeking to avoid reasonable costs for acquisition of broadcast content. rather we seek a fair set of rules which it can not be unfairly leveraged against consumers and new entrants like us. give you a little background, centurylink is the third largest telecommunications company in the united states offering voice, video and date to over 14 million homes in 37 states and businesses in all 50 states and select national markets. we offer cyber security solutions to the federal government and multiple state and local governments. as a result of our recent acquisition of savis we're actually one of the largest cloud computing and hosting companies in the world. only recently over the past five years have we gotten involved

mr. mackenzie. the temporary compulsory license has been extended innumerable me congress. my question is how well is it working for television viewers, and do you feel that it ought to be reauthorized for another five years? >> i would say it is working wonderfully as a result of the last reauthorization -- it is working wonderfully. as a result of the last reauthorization, dish is providing 210 channels to all the dma's. >> i agree completely. we think the local compulsory licenses do work. i disagree with my friend preston padden on that one. >> we will go three in a row. i also agree. >> the next question is for mr. garrett, mr. padden, and mr. dodge. what alternatives exist to the compulsory license, and would t hose alternatives adequately protect the rights of copyright holders? mr. garrett? >> the copyright office has addressed that very question in a report that they prepared for congress, when they talked about the different types of licensing. direct licensing, sublicensing, and collective licensing. and the report lays it out in excellent detail. the one thing i

mr. mackenzie? >> i think our position is . >> hit the button. >> our position is general guideline would be better than specific guidelines. mr. dodge come up with two idea. the distant signal and also kind of the blackout. the distant signal doesn't work for the cable industry. we don't already have the content. lite already has the content and quickly move it. for us it would be building fiber and trying to get if off. which would be impossible. preventing the blackout while leaving the signal on while we negotiate would be preferable. >> not to repeat what has been said. i agree with them. >> hit the button. >> it's not on? >> much better. to return the negotiations to actual free market negotiation. we hear a lot about the thumb on the scale in favor of one party over the other. we don't seek have the thumb put on the scale in our favor. we would rather it removed from the other side the negotiations become free market negotiation. the world changed a lot since 1992. >> thank you. mr. garrett? >