mr maguire, let me start with you. the numbers are a little shocking, only because they so overstate the number of americans living in poverty, and the number of children living in poverty, why is the number of public schoolchildren so much higher than the other figures? >> ray i think the answers has do with the changing demographics in the country. the other kid that are in and will be in the public schools for the foreseeable future. >> does public education concentrate poor kids. is that number risen, in fact by the possibility of more middle class and upper class kids not using the system around the country? >> i think that we've had a complicated story about public schools leading scam to try to leave, but what is concentrated in the schools is where they live >>> have you seen this in your years of public schooling that the population in a school building is going up, and the rising. >> absolutely. in the school where i am currently we increased from 74 years. >> is that the trend in the economy or is it likely