mr. mahmoud. >>> good afternoon, directors. so, we go to the town hall meeting. the point of the meeting is to tell the people what mta wants to do and what people tell them what's the best way to do it. but when we go there, we just listen to lines. and if anybody try to go right or left, we have a tendency to scream on that person. would you believe that two, three line we talked about the ramp, just saying the people were on the waiting list, they are getting these medallions. now, the question is these medallions which are coming back, ramp medallions, who is going to hold them? how long they going to hold them? the drivers who are going to drive them, they need to have ramp training, too. why they are going to get ramp training if they are not going to be permanent on that one? nobody ask this question. it's a quite cumbersome issue, but nobody want to discuss in a meeting, town hall meeting, but they don't talk like that. they start 360 degree about over cab, about something else. we are there for ramp taxi issue. nobody is talking properly. we've been begg

mahmoud, [speaker not understood]. >>> i'd like to speak at the last. >> who is next? >> mark gruberg. >> mr. gruberg. >>> thank you again. mark gruberg. i'd like to echo some of the comments of the previous speakers, particularly mr. rathbone who is a manager at the company that has the most ramp taxis in the city and has the most to gain from the issuance of ramp taxi medallions to cab companies. and yet clearly recognizes the main incentive for a driver to drive the ramp taxi, to continue driving a ramp taxi is the possibility of gaining a ramp taxi medallion. and although this legislation doesn't preclude the issuance of ramp taxi medallions to drivers in the future, it's certainly, certainly points away from it. and i would urge you very strongly. leave this door of opportunity open for drivers. too many other doors have been closed to them. i also have to say that i oppose further leasing of medallions. i know that it's in the agency's financial interest to do this, but i think that the agency's financial interests too often have been trumping the interest of drivers, the interest of co

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