mr. malcolm: yes mr. jordan: could fire an individual be done with corrupt intent and therefore be criminal? mr. malcolm: it could be done for an improper purpose. but the president has exercise. mr. jordan: could a lawful action with criminal intent, could that be obstruction justice? mr. malcolm: yes. mr. jordan: if there is no underlying crime. mr. malcolm: sure. mr. jordan: what if there is no action? i keep coming back to this, did the president fire bob mueller? mr. malcolm: no. mr. jordan: did the president pardon paul manafort or michael flynn or michael cohen or roger stone? mr. malcolm: no. mr. jordan: did the president stop people from testifying? mr. malcolm: not as far i know. mr. jordan: did president's white house counsel done mcgahn testify? mr. malcolm: yes. mr. jordan: for 30 hours. did the president do anything to get information? mr. malcolm: no. mr. jordan: did jeff sessions recuse himself? mr. malcolm: no. mr. jordan: here's my point, when you in my judgment, the president was falsel

mr. malcolm. isn't it true that the president could have exerted executive privilege and prevented mr. mcgahn and others from cooperating from the special counsel? >> yes. >> and in fact, not only did he encourage mr. mcgahn to cooperate, he allowed 20 white house officials to testify, including 8 people from the white house koum counsel's office. >> correct. >> isn't it true that the president has full constitutional authority without reason to fire the fbi director at any time. >> yes. >> so, how would it be obstruction to fire an fbi director? >> i don't think it was. i would also point out that the report also indicates that others within the intelligence community, attorney general sessions himself, had suggested that the president ought to do that before the president decided to do it. >> isn't it also true that if the special counsel had decided on the question of obstruction, he could have stated that there was evidence the president committed obstruction and recommended that he be charged with obstruction and not kick the decision to the a.g. >> he could have done that, yes. >

mr. malcolm served as a deputy assistant attorney general in the department of justice. he received his bachelor's degree from columbia college, my alma mater and a j.d. from harvard law school. barbara mccade served as the u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, from 2010 to 2017. she also served as vice chair of the attorney general's advisory committee, and co-chaired the terrorism and national security sub committees. she is currently a professor from practice at the university of michigan law school school. ms. mccade referred her batch already's degree from the university of michigan and the j.d. at the university of michigan law school. we welcome our distinguished witnesses and we thank you you for participating in today's hearing. now, if you would please rise, i will begin by swearing you in. raise your right hands. do you swear or affirm under pebble ty of perjury that the testimony you are to go sieve true and correct to the best of your information, knowledge and belief so help you god. let the record show that the witnesses answered in the affir

mr. malcolm. mr. malcolm: chairman nadler, ranking member collins, and distinguished members of congress. i'm the vice president of the institute for constitutional government at the heritage foundation. i've also served as a deputy assistant attorney general and assistant united states attorney, and-r an associate independent counsel, and criminal defense attorney. special counsel mueller deserves a lot of credit for conducting a thorough investigation. while volume one of his report chronicles in detail how the russians attempted to interfere in our election and concludes no one in the trump campaign was involved in that unlawful effort, i'm less enthusiastic about volume two. under the applicable regulations it was special counsel's duty to provide the attorney general with a confidential report explaining the prosecution or decisions reached by him. by not making a traditional prs can cue torial judgment with respect to the obstruction of justice allegations mr. mueller failed to fulfill that duty.

mr. herman -- barbara george, daughter of captain malcolm george. the next wreath is from australia. ted by wing commander matthews -- is accompanied by world war ii veterans, mr. dick bailey and mr. george richards peterson. [no audio] presenting the wreath for belgium, captain gregory -- transportation officer, embassy of belgium. he's accompanied by world war ii veteran, mr. donald mickey. [no audio] presenting the wreath for canada is mr. christopher givens and captain christian monahan, royal canadian navy, embassy of canada. they are accompanied by wwii veteran, mr. irvin powell. -- they are accompanied by world war ii veteran, mr. irvin powell. accompanying the wreath for the czech republic, brigadier general john -- embassy of czech republic. accompanying him, world war ii veterans, mr. larry thorpe, mr. charles lawrence wheeler and mr. jose vollaldenado. [no audio] presenting the wreath for denmark, lieutenant colonel william kruger paulson, assistance defense military, naval and air attache, royal danish embassy. is accompanied by wwii veterans, corporal david wo allman and

send my prayers and condolences to malcolm's wife and his children, sylvia, malcolm, kathryn, along with .is entire family mr. speaker, it's with a heavy heart i rise today to honor the life, memory of an american patriot from bucks county, pennsylvania, who passed away on june 5 at the age of 96. peet risedi, lived a life in service to our country and community. born in philadelphia, pete served honorably in the united states navy during world war ii. he earned the american theater european theater combat medal. he was awarded the french legion of honor medal, the highest distinction for his service. pete served in several campaigns during the war, including the invasion of sicily, is i learno, normandy. a graduate of temple university, pete earned a degree in business administration from temple university and later worked as an employee benefit consultant. mr. speaker, i send my deepest condolences to pete's children, donna, sandra, carla, joseph and mary ellen, along with the entire family. may they take comfort that he's now reunited with the net and enjoying his eternal reward. mr. speaker, i yield back

mr. lu, annie chung, kito chung, gordon chin, malcolm young. >> see how this works? our fellow citizens are lining up and we can do this efficiently. ms. lu, welcome to city hall. >> thank you. i'd like to cede my minutes to malcolm young to represent us as a group and i come from the rose pak community fund. >> we'll have one minute and one speaker and it will be me and i'll quickly read off who we represent so you know who's here in the room. it's a number of community stakeholders who have been in and around the subway for decades. we have gordon chin founder much chinatown community director and phil chin from the transportation research and improvement project. we have annie chung from self-help from the elderly and queena chung from the dem club. we have kit min chan where rose served as general consultant for three decade. we have the president of the community tennis association and i just want to say. >> commissioner: thank you for doing this efficiently. my question is are there other people you'd like to identify aligned with your comments? >> that's it. >

malcolm x? i know the superintendent, mr. matthews, i know you like to wear your warriors jersey and rock the paraphernalia or clothing, memorabilia, i should say. strength in numbers. it is not just a motto, it is a reality for us. we are just a representation of the power that she has. we had a petition of over 100 people. i'm pretty sure you have received it. if not, we'll make sure you get that, but this is a person who is very important to our community. we all separated from whatever we're doing in our daily lives to come up here and express this and we pray and we hope that you will take this into consideration and find a way to make this possible for malcolm x , by any means necessary. [applause] >> i called some other names. please approach the podium. >> hi, my name is breanna. i am here to talk about miss april. we need her to be here because she is part of the community. she helped my family out a lot. without her, we would be very sad and heartbroken. thank you. [applause] >> hello, my name is ezekiel. i have fiv

malcolm. >> by not making a judicial prosecutorial judgment with respect to the allegations, mr. fill that duty. the special counsel put the attorney general in the difficult situation of having to make that decision. >> and that very witness, john malcolm, joins me now. thank you for coming on "the beat." >> my pleasure. >> did you have a good time? >> well, i was alarmingly ignored. john dean got an awful lot of attention from the republicans and the democrats and didn't get asked a single question by a single democrat. it seems they wanted to hear what the other two had to say. >> we're interested, we've been hearing from people on all sides of this. let me show one of the disturbing claims you made. >> it is almost infairbly the case that someone attempting to obstruct an investigation also engages in other nefarious activities such as destroying evidence, suborning perjury, bribing witnesses or threatening them with bodily harm. >> i thought you laid out the law quite clearly there. you were implying the president never did any of that. as you know, it is incontrovertible tha

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