the manalos, mr. and mrs. manalo talked to you about what they observed or didn't observe. my recollection is ms. manalo said that the bigger person was on top. they made a big issue of the defense in cross-examining her, hold on, but you did see photographs on tv and the photographs we saw where of trayvon martin and showed him playing football and like a football uniform. yeah, that's true. but i still think the person on top was the bigger person. now, she didn't see the shooting. my point is that there was a fight there. there was a struggle and at some points it appears, based on the evidence, that the defendant was on top and at some points the victim was on top. wrestling, struggling, whatever you want to call it. but why did it occur? why did it occur? if you believe he's an innocent man, then you believe that the victim just decided to come up and smack him, smack the defendant and the defendant fell to the ground and the victim started beating him up or -- oh, we don't know. but for some reason. and that the defendant really wasn't following him, the defendant rea

mr. manalo, please call my wife, and then apparently mr. taking too long or something and he said just tell her i killed him, just matter of fact. those acts, those actions speak volumes of what occurred that evening, sunday evening and they speak volumes of this defendant's actions. sunday february 27th, sorry, february 26th, 2012, at 7:09 p.m., at the retreat at twin lakes town homes, now, are you obviously aware that the shooting actually happened minutes later. i think because of the recording that was made we were actually able to precisely determine when that fatal shot occurred. it occurred at 7:16 and 55 seconds. i would submit that the events leading up to this murder actually occurred not just earlier that sunday evening, but months before. why do i say that? even though trayvon martin wasn't there months before, why do i say that the events leading up to this occurred months before? you recall the testimony of several people, but most importantly, the evidence you heard from this defendant's mouth when he was being interviewed by

the manalos, mr. and mrs. manalo talked to you about what they observed. what they really didn't observe. my recollection is ms. manalo said the bigger person was on top. they made a big issue the defense in cross examining her, hold on. you did see photographs on tv. photographs of trayvon martin showed him playing football, in a football uniform. yeah, that's true. but i still think the person on top was the bigger person. now, she didn't see the shooting. my point is that there was a fight there. there was a struggle. at some points, it appears, based on the evidence, that the defendant was on top. and at some points the victim was on top. wrestling, struggling, whatever you want to call it. but why did it occur? why did it occur? if you believe he's an innocent man, then you believe that the victim just decided to come up and just smack him. smack the defendant. the defendant fell to the ground. the victim just started beating him up for -- oh, we don't know. but for some reason. and that the defendant really wasn't following him. the defendant really

mr. manalo, please call my wife.too long or something, and he said just tell her i killed him. just kind of matter of fact. those acts -- those actions speak volumes of what occurred that evening, sunday evening, and they speak volumes of this defendant's actions. sunday, february 27th -- sorry. february 26, 2012, at 7:09 p.m., at the retreat at twin lakes town homes. now you're obviously aware that the shooting actually happened minutes later. in fact, i think because of the recording that was made we were actually able to precisely determine when that fatal shot occurred and it occurred at 7 6 7:16:55. but i would submit that the events leading up to this murder actually occurred not just earlier that sunday evening, but months before and why do i say that even though trayvon martin wasn't there months before. why do i stha the events leading up to this occurred months before? you recall the testimony of several people, but most importantly the evidence you heard from this defendant's mouth when he was being interv

mr. manalo and the way he looked. he looked like he was beat up. he looked like he was bending over. manalo thought he was beat up and he just looked strange. and then, of course, as mr. de as rionda said, just tell her i killed the guy. not what he said at all. i think what he said, and use your own memories, what when mr. manalo took the phone because had he to drop it because jim smith was doing as he does as a trained law enforcement officer, hands out, straight on top of your head. drop your phone and drops the phone and manalo gets it and says to the effect your husband has been involved in a shooting and what is the response from george zimmerman? tell us. i guess what he he should have said, what he was thinking through, what he wasn't thinking through, whatever he was going through, whatever the injuries were, whatever -- as manalo said, he just looked like he was out of breath, he should have said, well, that may sound insensitive, a year and a half from now. i should have said that hi to shoot somebody -- i don't know. what he should hav

mr. manalo took that photograph. why was the blood still on there and why would the blood not be on the victim's hands? interesting, too, the direction of the blood. we'll talk a little bit about that. in terms of what happened. state's exhibit 77, mr. manalo, before the police got out there. where are the victim's hands? but under his body? what did the defendant claim to you? he used police jargon in terms of suspect and the police, of course, they always spread out the arms, hands, to make sure there's no weapon there. he's trying to tell police what happened is he was squared at one point i thought he had something in his hands and i was checking for that weapon. that's what i was doing. seems consistent with the physical evidence out there. the defense may argue, hold on, didn't dr. di maio say you could take out a person's heart and could live for 15 seconds and the person could walk and do all this stuff? you take out his heart and the moves them and spreads out his hand and taking more blood pumping out. the

mr. manalo showed up, i think it's consistent with the facts that trayvon martin brought his hands back in. even john guy suggested that trayvon martin was clutching his hands. it makes much more sense that it happened that trayvon martin clutched his hands back. >> it seems that the trial is moving fairly quickly. is the time line going faster than what you expected? >> a bit faster than i expected. i think the state may be done tomorrow or friday. that means we start friday or monday. we'll probably take most of next week, hard to say, maybe not. there are still some decisions that the court has to make about the add missability of evidence. he's very worried, he's very stressed. he's glad he finally has his day in court. this is very real to everyone, most importantly, george zimmerman, we have the state of florida trying to suggest that he killed trayvon martin of some ill-will and hatred. >> now, because of audio tapes talking to police, he's been able to give his version of the events without being cross-examined. you cannot see at this point putting george zimmerman on the stand, ca

mr. manalo. again, lying about that. he is trying to justify to the police he was searching because, of course, the victim had to have something in his hand, mean something kind of weapon that would have caused him to resort to the shooting. [inaudible] >> like this and i shot him, and i didn't think i hit him. he said, you got me. you got it-got me, something like that. so i -- [inaudible] >> assumed he hadn't shot him but then he had to push him off him. does that make sense? i guess when he said -- kind of fell into him, when he had been shot. and again, this is just in written form, some of the stuff you have already heard. just to kind of remind you. you've also got -- i'm not going to play it for you but a clubhouse video. very short. there's clips of it. by coincidence it appears there's a vehicle you might see a person, not a full figure, but a car where the mail boxes are. by coincidence, what rachel jan jeantel told you where he was, under the shaded part. where he described the defendant looking at him. >> he

mr. manalo showed up is consistent with the fact and the medical examiner can talk about it, martin could have put his hands back in. trayvon martin was clutching his hands. why would george make something like that up in the second that he had to do it, unless it actually happened? makes much more sense that it happened, trayvon martin clutched his hands back. >> seems the trial is moving fairly quickly. is the timeline going faster than you expected or about what you expected it to be? >> a bit faster than i expected. i think the state may be done tomorrow or friday and that means we'll start friday or mean and we'll probably take most of next week,i it's hard to say, maybe not there are still decisions the court has to make about admissibility of evidence. if that's allowed, that could extend the testimony by a couple of three days. >> how does your client feel about the trial? can you say? >> he's very afraid. the state of florida trying to take away his liberty. he's had to live in hiding for a year. he's worried and stressed. he's glad he finally has his day in court and this is ver

mr. manalo. again, lying about that. because he's trying to justify to the police that he was searching because, of course, the victim had to have something in his hand, meaning some kind of weapon that would've caused him to resort to the shooting him. >> he sat up -- yes, sir, he was on top of me like this and i shot him. and i didn't think i hit him because he sat up and said, oh, you got me. you got it, you got me, something like that. so i thought he was just saying i knew you had a gun now, i heard it, i'm giving up. i don't know if i pushed him off me or he fell off me or either way. >> first he says he assumed he hadn't shot him but he had to push him off of him. does that make sense? i guess when he said you got me he kind of fell into him when he hadn't been shot. and, again, this is just in written form some of the stuff you've already heard. just trying to remind you of some important stuff. you've also got and i'm not going to play it for you, you've got a clubhouse video that's very short. there's clips of

mr. manalo had there. >> it was part of his house. >> there was no evidence that it was used as a tool orm jim or anything like that? >> none whatsoever. >> and you would agree that an expert, or if he's qualified as an expert. medical examiner, or assistant medical kpeupber would be better qualified as to the findings he made versus you saying what he said? >> yes, sir. >> you would defer to a medical examiner would you not? >> absolutely. >> mr. mahr asked you a question about the burglaries that were being committed at twin peak lakes, and you determined that there were some. >> yes, sir. >> and the defendant had made calls about them, right? >> yes. >> are and i think referred to it as a black male, right? at least one of them he referred to. do you know whether the other individuals he had called on were black males or not. >> from what i call researching, then, yes, they were. >> would you say that that is a rerog torrey term -- bill: very compelling testimony. chris serino has been on the stand for an hour and a half already this morning. we are going to take a very quick break. we