this concerns me, and i'd like to know, mr. mane, what msha is doing to ensure both districts are fully staffed and we have a sufficient number of specialists to review technical issues like ventilation, and what resources does the agency need to make sure that both of these district offices are functioning at an optimum level and we are able to retain employees with sufficient experience. >> thank you, congressman. i think we split the district about june, i believe, of last year. >> that's correct. >> and actually, we moved into the msha academy. we're looking for office space to move into, so we can expand. probably going to be taking more and more of the academy space. but kevin strickland is on tap to figure out -- we've got a number that we're moving to. we're ramping up, we're finding space for those. and we still have a ways to go, as you said, to move some more folks in there to get where we want to be. and we are providing additional support from the outside to get there. but i would hope, by within the next three or four

mr. chairman. >> you're recognized. >> thank you, very much, secretary mane. it seems to me the key question we come back to is whether -- whether there are teeth. whether the sanctions are so minor that -- i mean, m-i-n-o-r, that the poor performers have very little incentive to clean up their acts. what -- forgive me if i'm retreading ground that you've already been over. but it seems to me it's the key question. what do we need to do legislatively to strengthen the sanctions? >> i think i've talked about a number of this today. i think they're contained in legislation that was already before this body. and it deals with things i think are very fundamental. one is, you know, giving miners better protection for them to be able to speak out. i believe that those mine operators are flooding -- getting the best, and actions to curb things like advance notice that some still don't get it. that we need to deal with. >> the state of west virginia has done that, i guess. but this needs to be done at a federal level. i believe. is that -- >> i think there's -- yeah,