mr. manjoo: or 2. mr. rinat: you know one thing i have been using a lot recently is snapchat, snapchat is there's no virality -- you can't really like share stuff to your 48 friends, there's news on it, but it's curated by snapchat and some of it's made by snapchat. and the way that they cover like some natural disaster for example is everyone who uses snapchat will send in videos of their experience of flooding or something and you'll see many, many different people's perspectives in a short two or three minute video, which is so much more informative than sort of a cable news clip of that same thing. well first of all it's hard to find coverage of like non-politics on cable news anymore, but even if you did it would be difficult to have this wide range of views and it could be, i mean i don't know if snapchat will succeed or not, but facebook might copy all those features and then you might figure we have those kinds of things in facebook also. mr. manjoo: okay, yes i agree. mr. rainie: the other thing t

mr. manjoo: or 2. mr. rinat: you know one thing i have been using a lot recently is snapchat, snapchat is there's no virality -- you can't really like share stuff to your 48 friends, there's news on it, but it's curated by snapchat and some of it's made by snapchat. and the way that they cover like some natural disaster for example is everyone who uses snapchat will send in videos of their experience of flooding or something and you'll see many, many different people's perspectives in a short two or three minute video, which is so much more informative than sort of a cable news clip of that same thing. well first of all it's hard to find coverage of like non-politics on cable news anymore, but even if you did it would be difficult to have this wide range of views and it could be, i mean i don't know if snapchat will succeed or not, but facebook might copy all those features and then you might figure we have those kinds of things in facebook also. mr. manjoo: okay, yes i agree. mr. rainie: the other thing t

mr. manjoo: yeah. mr. manjoo: ron brownstein is editorial director for strategic partnerships at atlantic media, where he contributes to the atlantic and the national journal including a weekly column on both sites. he's a longtime political analyst for cnn and he was previously a columnist and political correspondent for the la times and he's the author six books most recently the second civil war how extreme partisanship has paralyzed washington and polarized america. and also julia angwin is a senior reporter at pro publica where in 2016 she led a team investigating algorithms that was a finalist for appeal and surprise in explanatory reporting. and from 2000 to 2013 she reported at the wall street journal where her team of reporters won the 2003 explanatory reporting covering corporate corruption. and she's the author of among other things dragnet nation a quest for privacy security and freedom in a world of relentless surveillance. so i wanted to talk about this question of one way to think of what hap