i'm glad that mr. mantihile mentioning the injuries mentioned that the injuries are not necessary. we all know that. witnesses may or may not know that. it is only mr. zimmerman's fear of great bodily injury that allows him to act in self-defense. and if in fact there is evidence, a presentation that has come before this court to support that reasonable hypothesis of innocence, that jorm george zimmerman reasonably believed that he had to act in self-defense, the judgment of acquittal should be granted. there is absolutely no evidence that at the time he shot -- there's been no evidence whatsoever to suggest under the law that he was the initial aggressor. they want to say that but they know they have absolutely no evidence to say that. they want to and they will at closing, i presume, should we get to that, but there's absolutely no evidence to support that. so if that's not true and we also know even if it was true, screaming for help or done away with that, but the real focus is, at the time he got that g

if mr. manti seeks to offer the witness's testimony through skype, then he should offer the direct and then we can cross as appropriate. we also need an opportunity, though, to speak to mr. pleasants prior to him taking the stand by whatever method that he does. the motion to perpetuate, as the court's aware, is a last-minute motion during the course of the trial when the state realized mr. pleasants wasn't available. we don't fault them for the effort that they made. we didn't become aware of the significance, frankly, if any, of this witness's testimony as well as some time after the trial started when we began to realize why he was being offered in connection with mr. zimmerman's coursework. i think mr. pleasants may have taught an online course at the seminole state college. in any event, the issue last tuesday was a scheduling complication. i don't dispute that the deposition was set some time after court on tuesday and that at some point may have known that. there were no reminders or any co

we can start with mr. manti dumped all of this on us sometime around 7:30 this morning. there was an email, oh, by the way, we have changed our lesser included request from aggravated assault to third- degree murder based on child abuse?! >> ultimately the judge ruled that jurors cannot convict zimmerman on a lesser charge of third degree felony murder for the fatal shooting of trayvon martin. the jury of six women is expected to begin deliberations tomorrow. >>> helping homeless veterans get off the streets. ahead, the new effort in one bay area city. >> and a battle over bacon. one restaurant owner's fight to keep his business going despite neighbor complaints and the increasing support behind it. look at 'em. living on cloud nine with that u-verse wireless receiver. you see in my day, when my mom was repainting the house, you couldn't just set up a tv in the basement. i mean, come on! nope. we could only watch tv in the rooms that had a tv outlet. yeah if we wanted to watch tv someplace else, we'd have to go to my aunt sally's. have you ever sat on a plastic covered c

if either mr. manti or i were to ask you questioning that may be protected for security reasons or outside the scope of this case. >> that is correct. >> is your fbi lab a forensic lab? >> yes. >> and i want to just have you address that for a moment. the jury may not know what forensic means. in the context of the work that you do. i'll summarize it, or you correct me. that it's with a focus towards evaluating evidence for possible use in a courtroom setting. >> narrow definition and broad definition of the word friends -- forensics. and what you just defined was the narrow version of forensics. usually people thinks any evidence created by forensic should be able to be produced. as evidence in the courtroom. but another interpretation which is the broad definition, forensic simply means the analysis that is being conducted for the purpose of, you know, investigative guidance. criminal investigation or terrorist investigations. >> so in other words if one of those agencies that's only known by its acron

mr. mantie, he didn't know if the witness is available, but he would like to be able to call the witnesshe chooses. judge nelson indicated moment ago that she wants closing statements to begin tomorrow. she would like the jury to get closing statements tomorrow morning. >> right. the value of arthur fleischmann to the prosecution, this is an individual, an atf agent who arrested george zimmerman in 2005, charges were dropped but his value to the prosecution? >> so i drew a picture in my notes today when dennis root was testifying of a door opening. and that's because when dennis root, the expert witness testified that george zimmerman was not the confrontational type he was not the "i'm going to get on you" type, that was opening the door to exactly this testimony. the judge already said these prior acts of george zimmerman allegedly assaulting a law enforcement officer, would not come in unless, unless, somebody opened the door. and i believed that testimony now gave an argument that that door was opened and the prosecution is apparently arguing that as well. because now that they have

we can start with mr. manti dumped this on us at 7:30. oh, by the way i changed the lesser request from lesser degrees assault based on child a bows. and 10 or 15 cases that obviously he spent hours and if not days and maybe more than a year plotting for this moment when he can spring it on us and the court? >> the court is just getting back in session and arguments over that third degree charge are ongoing. as we await the judge's decision on whether or not the jourors can consider third degree murder. and the judge's testy exchange with the defense. and first, check in with phil coating who is live in sanford, florida. a lot of new wrinkles today, phil. >> absolutely allison. and the last element outside of closing arguments are currently underway. the state is live inside of the courtroom right now telling the judge deborah nelson he came up with two more cases to support the lesser charge for the jury to take with them in the deliberation's rom. lesser charge of third degree felony murder and zimmerman's attorneys don't want that ente

we can start with mr. manti dumped all of this on us sometime around 7:30 this morning.re was an e-mail, oh, by the way, we've changed our lesser included request from aggravated assaulted to third degree murder, based on child abuse? and put 10 or 15 cases that obviously he has spent hours, if not days, if not in fact maybe more than a year plot iting, fo this moment, when he can spring it on us and the court. somewhere we wondered why the state would put this vague allegation in the information that trayvon martin was 17. no other charge of child abuse, no evidence of anything other than this statement that trayvon martin was a minor, 17 years old. first of all, i move to strike it as surplusage, because it's not related to any element of the offense for which george zimmerman is charged, nor related to any conceivable lesser included offense. so, i guess what's happened now, since the time that the state filed it's information in april, that they've been lying in wait, collecting all this, loosely connected child abuse case law, where 2 year-olds have been shot by som

mr. rich manti and everybody from the prosecutor's office. to everybody that put their hoodies up. to everybody says i am trayvon. his family expresses their heartfelt gratitude for helping them these past 17 months. to tracee and sybrina, trayvon's parents, it has made sanford and many other cities a little safer for all our children. i know trayvon is up there proud of the changes that you as his parents have inspired in his name. this morning, martin luther king's daughter tweeted me a message. it read today is a demoment for the status of my father's dream. whatever the zimmerman verdict is, she tweeted, in the words of my father, we must conduct ourselves on the higher plain of dignity and discipline trayvon martin will forever remain in the annals of history as symbols for the fight for equal justice for all tracy and sybrina are thankful for all the prayers over the past 17 months since the death of their son. this is a very trying time for their family and we ask that you respect their privacy. in conclusion, for trayvon to rest in peace, we must all be peaceful. thank you.

mr. rich manti, and everybody from the prosecutor's office, to everybody that put their hoodies up and toprybody who said i am trayvon, his family express their heartfelt gratitude for helping them these past 17 months. to tracy andcy brin na, trayvon's parents, your tireless work in the name of your son has made sanford and many other cities just a little safer for all our children. i know trayvon is up there proud at the changes that you as his parents have inspireding in his name. this morning, martin luther king's daughter dr. berniece king, tweeted me a message that read today is a defining moment for the status of my father's dream. whatever the zimmerman verdict is, she tweeted, in the words of my father, we must conduct ourselves on the higher plain of dignity and discipline. trayvon martin will forever remain in the annals of history next to medgar everss and emmett till as symbols for the fight for equal justice for all. and till as symbols for the fight for equal justice for all. tracey and sybrina are thankful for all those prayers over the past 17 months since the death of the