mr. martin leaves what you think is the mail area. and walks in the direction of where he's staying. >> yes, sir. >> yes? >> yes, sir. >> and at that point mr. zimmerman was still in his vehicle? >> yes, sir. >> and mr. martin continued to walk? >> yes, sir. >> and he observed and told you that the man is following him in the car? >> yes, sir. >> and then you said well run? >> yes, sir. >> and he did run? >> from the back area. >>ers on the street or on the sidewalk in front of mr. zimmerman's car at the point that want he decided to run? >> yes, sir. >> and he ran? >> yes, sir. from the back area to try to leave him. >> you don't know whether he ran into the direction where you could only travel by foot, or whether you could drive? >> no, sir. i don't know the area. >> agreed. no. what you knew at that point, though, was that mr. zimmerman was still in his vehicle, probably still on the phone, because trayvon martin never said he wasn't, and -- >> words are speculating to what mr. zimmerman was or wasn't doing toward phone. >> stainse

mr. martin left the store at 6:23:49, or thereabouts, and mr. zimmerman saw him in the retreat at twin lakes complex at 7:09:34, are you able to tell me about what you and mr. martin talked about during that time period and where, if any, where he went other than to the complex where his father's fiancee was staying? >> that night? >> yes. >> the rain had got him. the rain. the rain got -- he got caught by the rain. he was at mails plaing place, t mailing area. >> did he tell you then as he left the store that it started to rain? >> yes. >> and that he ran to the -- or walked quickly to the mail area? >> shortcut. >> pardon me? >> a shortcut to the mailing area. >> a shortcut from where to where? do you have any idea? >> no. >> but he told you that he was going to run over to the mail area? >> yes. >> do you know if that was the mail area that was in the complex where he was staying, or was that, perhaps, in another complex in between the story and where he was staying? >> the complex that he was staying on. because i had asked him where he was

mr. martin left the store at 6:23:49 or thereabouts and mr.im in the retreat at twin lakes complex at 7:09:34, are you able to tell me about what you and mr. martin talked about during that time period and where, if any, where he went other than to the complex where his father's fiance was staying? >> that night? >> yes. >> the rain got him, the rain -- he got caught by the rain. he was at the mailing place, the mailing area. >> so did he tell you then as he left the store that it started to rain? >> yes. >> and that he ran to the, or walked quickly to the mail area? >> shortcut. >> pardon me? >> a shortcut to the mail area. >> a shortcut from where to where? do you have any idea? >> no. >> but he told you that he was going to run over to the mail area? >> yes. >> do you know if that was the mail area that was in the complex where he was staying or was that perhaps in another complex in between the store and where he was staying? >> the complex that he was staying on. because i had asked him where he was at. he said he's in a place where his f

mr. martin say?d, no, he almost right there. >> he said -- >> he almost right by his daddy fiance house. >> so mr. martin, you told him to run. he said, no, he's almost by his daddy's -- >> i object. it's a misstatement of the -- >> okay. please sit down. could you please give your answer again? you have to say it slowly and loudly. okay? >> yeah. >> thank you. >> here's what you need to do. move that microphone if you could a little closer. the one in the middle, the smaller one -- you have two of them. i don't know if that's working. >> that's not the one. bobby, could you lift the other one up just a little bit? >> is >> lisa, are these witnesses coached at all by prosecution? >> of course, they are walkinged through their testimony. let me tell you as a practicing attorney for many, many years, we take our witnesses as we find them. we tell people to speak clearly, to stick to the story. they get on the stand and they do what they're going to do. in her defense, she's a 19-year-old girl. i'm sure

mr. martin and mr.rman. >> yes, sir. >> so that call had started at 7:12:06 which was a little over three minutes, correct? >> yes, sir. >> and there weren't any interruptions in that phone call? >> no, sir. >> and frankly you don't know at 7:15:43 when the phone cut off, whether it cut off for any reason other than it was just one more lost call? >> no, sir. >> so look at the other call though, the one before it, where it says it disconnected at a 7:11:47. do you see that in. >> yes, sir. >> and that the next call started at 7:12:06. >> yes, sir. >> if you do the math and figure out how long it was between 7:11:47 and 7:12:06, to me, that is -- >> if you need to take a copy of that. >> step back. >> that's about 19 seconds, correct? >> yes, sir. >> so does that seem to you to be about right if, that when trayvon martin ran, ran towards the back of his father's house, while george zimmerman was in the car, that about 20 seconds elapsed before your call reconnected? >> yes, sir. >> so the only time from

mr. martin's body when you got there? >> yes. >> and the illumination of mr. in's body is from your flashlight, correct? >> yes. >> it's not from the flash on the phone? >> no. >> you shined the flashlight and then took the photo? >> yes. >> around that spot where you see it's much darker, is that a good depiction of what the overall lighting conditions were that night? >> yes. >> if i could see 78. this is the next picture that you took. i don't know which sequence and that doesn't matter but the other picture that you took is state ee state's 78. you can see of trayvon martin's body is in the same position although it's a lot harder to see, isn't it? >> yes. >> now you can see more clearly this flashlight? >> yes. >> the flashlight was not on at any point in time when you saw it? >> no. >> at that point you had no idea whether it was connected to the case. only that you saw it there and it caught your attention? >> yes. >> when you shifted your flashlight to point at the one in the picture, then as you can see here mr. mar tip's body was just like i said befo

mr. martin's body to have taken this picture?> yes. >> you recognize that the light on the sort of back patio area is from the light of the second unit in from the corner? >> i couldn't remember whether that's the second or the third unit from the corner. >> it was not, however, directly across from you. >> correct. >> it was somewhat to the left of where your unit was. >> yes. >> just for orientation in the photo and sort of where you were when it was taken, you see the porch light -- or the lit area in the back. >> yes. >> and you believe that you bel the back of someone's unit, either the second or possibly the third unit? >> yes. >> and then in the lower left corner, there seems to be sort of a dark edge. do you see that? >> yes. >> is that the sidewalk? >> yes. >> so what you're seeing here is the edge of the sidewalk on the left, the illuminated flashlight that's off, and then mr. martin's body. >> yes. >> in between the sidewalk and the back patio area of that residence. >> yes. >> when you say that you saw mr. martin's ha

mr. martin who was the aggressor. it was mr. martin who didn't follow the instructions. they're going to show is the photos that mr. zimmerman was victimized, the bruises, the scrapes that he sustained as a result of mr. martin being the aggressor in hurting him and attacking him and therefore he had no other option other than to use the gun and kill this young man. >> mark, if the defense goes with that strategy, wouldn't that make it even more important to the prosecution that this tape in experts come in because this tape and the experts saying that that wassen in fact that was yelling for help would dispel in many ways them being able to use that effectively as a defense. >> i'm not so sure this judge is going to let that tape come in, number one. i think number two when you get into a battle of the experts here clearly the defense has got the better experts than the prosecution. remember the defense is able to put up fbi experts who say that this is basically junk science. i'm not so sure that the prosecution is going to want to get what they're wishing for here bec

mr. martin continued to walk?yes, sir. >> and he observed and told you that the man is following him in the car? >> yes, sir. >> and then you said, well run? >> yes, sir. >> and he did run. >> to the back area. >> he wasn't -- he was on the street or on the sidewalk in front of mr. zimmerman's car at the point that he decided to run. >> yes, sir. >> and he ran? >> yes, sir. in the back area to try to leave him. >> you don't know whether he ran in the direction where you could only travel by foot, or whether you could drive? >> no, sir. i don't live in that area. >> agreed, no. what you knew at that point, though, was that mr. zimmerman was still in his vehicle, probably still on the phone, because trayvon martin never said he wasn't -- >> speculating os to wha as to what mr. zimmerman was doing regarding the phone. >> mr. martin never said he wasn't on the phone? >> the only time that trayvon told me the man was on the phone when he was at the mail area, that's the only time. he was still on the phone. i never kne

martin screaming out for help. today the jury also heard calls mr. zimmerman made to police in the months before the night of the shooting. calls that the judge ruled were admissible in the trial. but it was the testimony of trayvon martin's friend that riveted spectators in the courtroom. rachel jeantel was on the stand all afternoon. she testified for the prosecution about a half an hour. at one point nearly breaking down in tears. she also faced a tough cross examination from the zimmerman defense team. that lasted about an hour and a half and will continue tomorrow. here's a key part of her testimony when she describes that final call with trayvon martin. >> he just told me -- he just told me to try and lose him by start walking back home. because the rain come a little bit down. >> so mr. martin told you he was going to try to lose the man? >> yeah. by start walking home. >> okay. and did you say anything to him? >> no. we were just talking. and then he just told me the man following him now. then he said he's following me now. >> after mr. marti

mr. martin. >> please rephrase the question. >> after mr. martin ran, and you reconnected with him, you were talking with him for a couple of minutes before he told you he saw the man again, correct? >> yes, sir. zp you started paying particular attention because he said to you he sees the man again or the man is following him? >> yes, sir. the wind, sir, you can hear the wind, sir. i could hear the wind. that's how i know trayvon was still walking, sir. >> as opposed to hiding? >> yes, sir. >> you think he was walking as opposed to hiding because you could hear wind on this headset? >> yes, sir. >> as if he couldn't be standing still and there could also be wind? >> yes, sir. >> at the point where he tells you he sees the man again or as he said the man is right there. >> yes, sir. >> he decides to approach the man and say why are you following me for? >> objection, argumentative and misstatement of the facts. >> sustained. >> the objection has been sustained. wait for another question. thank you. >> there is no question in your mind that tr

mr. martin was lying face down with his head oriented generally towards the north and his hands underneathy, sir circumstances that a fair and accurate depiction of the way trayvon martin's body was positioned when you approached it? >> yes, sir, it is. >> did you see any movement from trayvon martin's body as you approached him? >> no, sir, i did not. >> did you hear any sounds coming from trayvon martin when you approached him? >> no, sir, i did not. >> did you attempt to see if trayvon martin was still alive? >> yes, sir. >> how did you do that? >> i attempted to get his pulse, sir. >> did you hear anything when you were performing cpr on trayvon martin? >> yes, sir. >> what was that? >> bubbling sounds, sir. >> and what did those bubbling sounds indicate to you? >> it meant that either air was getting into or escaping from the chest in a manner that it was not supposed to, sir. >> all right. and what did you do upon hearing those bubbling sounds from trayvon martin's chest? >> i called out to the crowd that was gathering nearby and i asked for saran wrap and vaseline, sir. >> and what

mr. martin. >> please rephrase your question. >> after mr. martin ran and you you reconnected with him, you were talking with him for a couple of minutes before he told you he saw the man again. correct? >> yes, sir. >> and during that time he was speaking in a somewhat low, what you considered to be out-of-breath tone. >> yes, sir. >> and you started paying particular attention because he said to you he sees the man again -- or the man's following him. >> yes, sir. you can hear the wind, sir. i could hear the wind. that's how i know trayvon was still walking, sir. >> as opposed to hiding? >> yes, sir. >> so you think he was walking as opposed to hiding because you could hear wind on this headset? >> yes, sir. as if he couldn't be standing still and there could also be wind? >> yes, sir. >> at the point where he tells you that he sees the man again, or as he said, the man's right there -- >> yes, sir. >> -- he decides to approach the man and say, why you following me for? >> objection. argumentative and misstatement of the facts. >> sustained.

mr. martin's body over on his back. would describe it as west to east or maybe easier to say that i rolled him onto his left shoulder and onto his back. >> as we're looking at state 77, you have rolled him from left to right? >> yes, sir. from the left side of the screen toward the right side. >> yes, sir. >> after you rolled his body over did you try to get a pulse? >> yes. >> were you able to? >> no. >> what did can you do next? >> i breathed for many martin. >> in a cpr technique? >> yes, sir. >> do you have training? >> yes, sir. >> what was your role in that cpr attempts on trayvon martin? >> i was doing breaths, sir. >> did you use any type of mask when you first started cpr with trayvon martin? >> no, sir, i did not. >> why not? >> i did not have it available, sir. >> do your standard operating procedures address whether you should use a mask when performing something like cpr on a victim? >> yes, sir. >> what are the procedures hold? >> our sop requires that i use universal precautions which in this case is the

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mr. crump in the recorded interview that trayvon martin described george zimmerman as a creepy-ass cracker? >> no. >> and when you met with mr. de la rionda, you didn't tell him in your interview that trayvon said a [ muted ] -- >> yes. >> so the reason you didn't say that, though, was because you didn't think it was relevant? >> nobody asked me. you come ask me what exactly that trayvon said that night about the person that was following him and watching him, that's what you asked me when i met up with you. >> so never before i met with you in march did you ever tell anyone exactly what you heard trayvon martin say? correct? >> about the person, describing the person? >> yes, in any of your interviews were you asked what was said, what happened next -- >> what was said, yes, i did. describing him, no, i did not. i just said creepy -- >> you said some dude's following him -- >> one at a time because the court reporter has to take down both voices. if you'll allow her to please finish her answer. are you finished with your answer? >> yes. >> okay. you may ask the next question. >> of course

mr. martin was not striking george zimmerman in the face? can't 100% confirm that that was happening. >> right? >> yes. >> and you just don't want to say that trayvon martin was taking george zimmerman's head and hitting it on the cement because you didn't actually see that, correct? >> yes, i couldn't see that. >> and it was because of the darkness and the positioning of the people? >> yes. >> you of course testified during your deposition and other times regarding what you heard and the disparity or the seeming disparity between what you remember hearing and what the 911 call seems to indicate, right? >> if you're referring to the call you played in my deposition, yes. >> yes. >> it just doesn't seem like the same screams to you, does it in. >> well one's coming from an audio and one i was hearing in person, so it didn't sound the same to me, no. >> so you perceived them differently than you heard on the 911 call, correct? >> yes. >> you're certainly not suggesting to this jury that they're not the same screams from different perspectives,

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mr. martin. we have to see who else says what. this play noose exactly what the defense has been saying. as i have been saying for the last year, whoever can be proven to be on the bottom crying for help, they were, in fact the other person was going to be deemed to be the perpetrator the dominant in force that, is the benefit of those on the ground screaming for help. >> if i were going up against you in court, i seen plenty of fights that go like this, bang, bang, bang, knockout punch, so it's probably not surprising we are hearing neighbors living just doors from each other giving completely differing accounts of what they hot they saw in the shadowy figures, significantly, we will talk about this after the break. it was knockout punch that perhaps the prosecutor made when he said, could you see their mouths moving when you said you thought it was george zimmerman calling out for help. he answered, no, so there has been a lot of stuff been done today that was done yesterday to two varying accounts, everybody hold your place for

mr. martin's body, sir. >> and what was the purpose of that?well, one, it was respect for the deceased, two, it was to mitigate the situation, and three to preserve any physical evidence on the body, sir. >> is that how trayvon martin's body appeared after you placed the medical plblanket on top of it? >> yes, sir. >> also testifying today was seline bahador who said she saw what appeared to be a fight outside her window. >> and if you could, describe to the jury what you saw at that time. >> i saw what looked as figures and arms flailing. >> figures, meaning more than one figure? >> yes. >> and at the time you first observed the two individuals, were the individuals erect, standing? were they on the ground? crouched? how would you describe the individuals? >> they were in a standing position. >> joining me now, a former criminal prosecutor, and from san francisco, ap reporter, carl hightower. faith, i want to get to the two photographs we saw there that show the position of the body. the one that was the undisturbed version, where the officer

mr. martin say the guy kept looking at him? >> yeah. and that he just told me, he just wanted to try to lose him. >> so mr. martin told you he was going to try lose the man? >> yeah. by walking home. >> of course, trayvon martin never made it home. rachel jenteal said the last thing she heard was her friend struggling saying get off, get off and they want phone went dead. phil keating is in florida tonight. this star witness not a perfect witness but man, she made some very important points. >> she did. but she was not the best witness for the prosecution. for one, the jurors really had to strain to understand her. plus, in the past she has lied. for example, about why she skipped trayvon martin's funeral. however, she is the only witness to testify that zimmerman from the get-go was the aggressor. >> i mean trayvon, and then he said why are you following me for? and then i heard a hard breath man saying what's you doing around here? >> before jeantel came forward last year. zimmerman had gone three weeks without arrest and one did not

mr. martin's body.the most strongest reactions, the most defined body language of all the jurors for sure. >> when you say the reaction and the body language, is it a body language and a reaction of shock, of concern, or could you tell? >> that jury you're talking about, b-76, she is seated in seat one, closest to the attorneys and to the gallery. >> right. >> whenever the 911 calls are played, she has a very defined reaction. as far as the crime scene photos go, today when they were shown in court, she wouldn't even look at them. her head was down. she was taking a few notes. but she wanted no part of those crime scene photos again, seeing what they depicted and seeing mr. martin's body. >> and she was one that the prosecution did not want on the panel. >> that's correct. they wanted her off the panel. she is sitting there in seat one. her reactions have been very pronounced, very defined. >> juror e-6 has been consistently noted as the most engaged juror. she is white, married mother. her husband owns

mr. martin. >> all right. ecall any other officers going over to trayvon martin's body at that time? >> yes, sir. >> who was that? >> sergeant raimondo. >> were you wearing gloves when you first made contact with the defendant and removed his holster and firearm from his person? >> i was not. >> and did you handle the firearm in any special way when you removed it? >> no, sir. >> why not? >> why did i not handle it in a certain way? >> yes, sir. >> there was not enough time. >> and did you secure or make safe the defendant's firearm at some point? >> i did. >> and how did you do that? >> i removed the magazine from the firearm and i locked the slide to the rear. >> all right. when you say you removed the magazine, we're talking about a semiautomatic pistol? >> correct. >> all right. and when you pulled the slide back or locked it into position to the rear, was there a round in the chamber? >> yes, sir. >> what happened to that round when you moved the slide? >> it was ejected. >> all right. did you collect it?

mr. martin, then when you called him back, did you say something to mr. or did he say something to you? take your time answering. >> he said -- i asked him where he at. he told me he at the back of his daddy fiance house, and i said, you better keep running. he said he -- >> stop a second. this lady's got to take everything down so make sure you're -- so after he said he lost him, what happened then? >> he said he was in the area of his daddy fiance house and i told him keep me on, he said, no, he'd just walk faster. [ inaudible ] so i said why? >> what happened after that? >> and then a second later, i turned off, said oh [ expletive ]. >> let me interrupt you a second. when you say the words oh [ expletive ], pardon my language, who said that? >> trayvon. >> my apologies. just bear with us, okay, here's your warning if you have the kids in the room c this may get -- this may get more than pg-1 pg-13. >> behind me? >> yeah. >> okay. did you say anything to him at that time? >> i told him, you better run. he had told me he almost by his daddy fiance house

mr. martin? >> the way i gathered, i believe he was probably more favorable toward mr. did that sqway you in any wa in getting you to favor one side versus the other? >> i know him to be pretty bias on his opinions. >> there you have it. she went on to say, she mostly avoids talk radio like the plague. she heard about this case, as you pointed out, like so many others, either watching the news or on radio or twit he or facebook these days. >> that's what is the judges working through. there has been such a downpour of pre-trial publicity. almost everybody has gotten damp and some have gotten drenched. as we are getting closer to tuesday, we can assume that the judge thinks sometime tuesday, she is likely to have 40 in effect, the 40 finalists. so there will be an additional round of questioning about causes for challenge. then, at some point, we will get to the fascinating question of the peremptory challenges, who will be the jurors that each side chooses to strike and eliminate with the automatic strike that each side is entitled to exercise. >> i want to get your tho

yeah. >> did you give the text messages to anybody in the martin family or mr. crump? >> no. >> did you talk about that with them? >> no. >> you never told them that you were trayvon martin's girlfriend, did you? pinches did you think that you were going to be -- >> no. because there was another young lady that he was seeing. >> you knew that? >> yeah. >> so trayvon martin was in a relationship with another girl, another young lady? >> yeah. >> and the relationship with you wasn't like that? >> hmm-um, no. >> so you just considered yourself like phone friends or pals? >> friends. >> but there were so many texts, hundreds and hundreds? >> some of those texts are not even me texting him. my friend having gotten my phone and texted him. several things. >> like a three-way texting thing? >> what? no. texting him from my phone, and he's thinking that's me. >> are you saying that some friends would text trayvon martin and he was thinking it was you? >> yes. if i was busy or i was driving, he would text for me. >> so a lot of the texting then are from other people? >> just two

mr. martin who was in control during that confrontation.s testimony end up, was it more beneficial to the state or to the defense. >> definitely more beneficial to the defense. and this is a good defense team. they've turned a number of prosecution witnesses. the prosecution has the obligation to support the youth truth in this trial. they need to bring in all of the witnesses really who have something relevant to say because if they don't, the defense will call those witnesses and imply that the prosecution is hiding them all if they haven't given the injury the full story. bet are for the prosecution to take a witness they know is not good for them, put them on the stand, have them give the testimony and try to limit it, try to bracket it as best they can. mr. goode said ta trayvon martin was on night fight in the fight. zimmerman was calling for help and trayvon martin was punching him mma style just before the gun went off. >> there was a reference to pound the ground and a television show which i taught was interesting given that earli

mr. martin was laying face down with his head oriented generally toward the north, and his hands underneath his body, sir. >> reporter: prosecutors also introduced martin's hooded sweatshirt, a bag of skittles, and zimmerman's gun were admitted into evidence. >> basically, they are the eyes and ears for law enforcement. they're not supposed to take matters into their own hands. >> reporter: but zimmerman acknowledged following trayvon martin in his call to police. >> are you following him? >> yeah. >> okay, we don't need you to do that. >> reporter: during cross-examination, zimmerman's attorney asked about cases of self-defense. >> you're not suggesting in any way that if you are attacked, you're not allowed to defend yourself? >> oh, not at all. >> the prosecution had a solid day, showing that neighborhood watch is about staying away from suspects. and with physical evidence that's starting to contradict george zimmerman's account of what happened that fatal night. >> reporter: we have yet to hear from witness number eight, she is the young woman on the phone with trayvon martin moments b

mr. martin. >> yes, sir. >> okay. from your awareness of it, did officer smith have any concerns with securing mr. zimmerman? was there -- >> no. i mean, he got himself secured. >> okay. >> and tock him to his vehicle and secured him in the vehicle. he was good. >> was mr. zimmerman compliant as far as you were aware? >> yes. >> did you do ever -- did he do everything that officer smith asked him to do? >> yes, he did. >> did he disobey in any form that you're aware? >> no, he did not. >> okay. did you get a look at his face? >> no. i -- i looked -- yes, i'm sorry, his face. yeah, i didn't focus at -- >> quick glance? >> yes. >> did you notice the blood on his nose? >> i can't tell you i did, no. >> okay. again, not a focus of yours once he was secured. >> exactly. >> okay. at that point, i think you said a moment ago you shifted over to trayvon martin, who was off at that point sort of to the left? >> yes. >> okay. and it was quite dark, right? >> yes, sir. >> you would not have been able to see trayvon martin's body

mr. trayvon martin that day, on february 26th. would you agree that the phone records are the best records about that in terms of the length of the calls, whatever the times are? >> yes, sir. >> if i may have a moment, your honor. >> yes, you may. >>> lisa, we're now in the redirect here. they're taking a moment. let's focus in on the last 8:00 or so. what's the objective of the state? >> the defense made some in roads telling about how her interview changed with the interview, at her deposition and at the trial. what the prosecutors are doing saying she was asked different questions at different times by different individuals. >> thank you, lisa. >> what you're talking about, sir. >> that's what i'm asking you. are you saying that english is your third language? that you spoke creole and spanish first? >> i spoke three languages in my house. >> does your mother speak english? >> not that well, sir. >> does she speak english. >> not that well, sir. >> i understand she may have an accent or some limitations, but do you speak to her

mr. martin's cell phone.ce is younger and generates much of what some observers have called screams. today judge nelson heard testimony from an expert for the defense who talked about the technology used in that voice analysis. the judge hasn't ruled on this yet. it's a key question. who is screaming on the tape? what experts will the jury hear from? whatever the judge decides could have a huge impact on this trial. joining me now is former prosecutor mar marcia clark, color of "killer ambition." and former criminal prosecutor faith jenkins. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> marcia, the hearing over the analysis of the 911 call has stretched over several days. how crucial is this to both sides? >> oh, it's critical. it's critical. if they get this admitted, the prosecution gets this admitted, it's going to be really damning evidence, because it will establish that the aggressor was zimmerman and not trayvon martin. on the other hand, if it doesn't come in, it will be a big loss to

mr. martin? >> that is correct. >> okay. and as you were going -- anything else you recall mr.to you at the scene before you started walking towards the car? >> not before, no, sir. >> okay. as you were walking towards the car, didn't he utter something to you, sort of voluntarily? >> yes, sir. >> what did he say? >> he stated to me that he was yelling for help and that nobody would come help him. >> and how long after you first saw him did that happen? within a minute? >> it was a few minutes. >> okay. as long as it took to do what we just talked about? >> correct. >> and then because as soon as you had him cuffed, you secured the gun. >> right. >> turned him around and walked him towards the car. >> correct. >> the car was 30 yards away? >> approximately. >> and it was during that walk -- actually, almost immediately upon turning towards walking towards the car that he uttered that to you, right? >> it wasn't very long after, no, sir. >> okay. he actually said that to you twice, didn't he? >> correct. >> second time was after you got to the car. >> that's correct. >> tell me

mr. crump that will trayvon martin said, why are you following me, the first response that you gave to mr. crump that is attributed to the other man, george zimmerman is what are you talking about, and then you changed it and said. >> objection. >> sustained. >> need a moment for the proper impeachment. we are following the cross-examination of rachel jeantel, the last. ern to speak to trayvon martin before he was shot. there's been a slight pause in proceedings. lisa, what exactly is going on now? >> i think they're talking about where their attorney can go and follow up questioning. i want to point out something i think was very important. he asked a number of questions about the text messages that she had exchanged with trayvon martin on his final day. there are a lot of them. there's been a lot of pretrial wrangling as to whether text messages on trayvon martin's phone could come into evidence. right now they are not in evidence but the judge said that could change depending how things went on trial. the defense very much wants to get those in. that's why they're delving into that are

mr. martin, sir. >> was trayvon martin pronounced dead at the scene? >> yes, sir. >> what are they trying to do? are they just establishing a time line? >> well, they're trying to do a bunch of things. it's a murder case. you have to prove that he died. it's as simple as that. every juror, as well as every spectator knew that he died of a gun shot wound. but it's so much more vivid and real when you hear that officer talk abouter is ran wrap and vasoline. it lends an immediacy and frankly a tragedy. you think of this boy dying on the floor like that. you know, sure, it doesn't tell you anything about whether it was self-defense or whether it was murder, but it gives a vividness that the prosecution wants and the jury won't forget. >> mark, the defense really didn't have much to ask this police sergeant. what's the thinking when there's very little cross-examination? is it just that not a lot to dispute or just to get the person off the stand? >> well, jeff just said it. the prosecution wasn't proving anything. this was an emotional ploy to get in this

mr. zimmerman or trayvon martin who was screaming for help? couldn't see anything. >> you couldn't say it was mr. martin yelling for help, because mr. zimmerman had a gun and he was yelling help, help, help. you can't say whether it was or not? >> can't say either way. >> so he is making the point these witnesses are simply coming in, telling about what they heard, what their observation were, if any. nothing more. they don't have a dog in this fight. no bias here. and i can tell you the most significant thing about this call, it is now in evidence. the jurors will be able to take this back into the deliberation room and listen to it again. john guy, the prosecutor, one of the prosecutors is going to get up and ask them again listen carefully. what when do the screams stop? the moment that gunshot goes off, this person, who sounds like they're screaming for their life, that person is silenced that is the significant argument about this call. >> if the person screaming is silenced, and of course the prosecution would want to use that saying it

mr. martin. >> yes. >> okay. areness of it, did officer smith have any concern with securing mr. zimmerman? >> no, i mean, he was -- he got him secured. >> okay. >> and took him to his vehicle and secured him in a vehicle. he was good. >> was mr. zimmerman compliant as far as you were aware? >> yes. >> did he do everything officer smith asked him to do? >> yes, he did. >> did he disobey in any form that you're a ware of? >> no, he did not. >> did you get a look at his face? >> no. i -- not -- i looked at it, yes, i'm sorry, his face. yeah, i didn't focus -- >> right. sort of a quick glances. >> yeah. >> did you notice the blood on his nose? >> i can't tell you i did, no. >> okay. again, not a focus of yours once he were secured? >> exactly. >> at that point, a moment ago you said you shifted over to trayvon martin who was off at that point sort of to the left? >> yes. >> okay. >> and it was quite dark, right? >> yes, sir. >> you would not have been able to see trayvon martin's body, but for your flashlight, is tha

mr. martin's cell phone. generates much of what some observers have called screams. now, he's identified the screams as trayvon martin. how vital is this for the prosecution's case? >> again, it's critical. they want to be able to convince the jury that trayvon was the victim here. this is a case where the state does not have a lot of direct evidence. it's circumstantial. every witness, they are going to built their case piece by piece, layer by layer. this is one of the pieces that they want to put in the puzzle to convince the jury that trayvon martin was the true victim here and george zimmerman was the aggressor from the very beginning. >> and lisa, if this is a self-defense case, then how could they say that he was defending himself if trayvon martin was the one screaming? >> well, exactly. this is going to be a case about who made the first move? who escalated the move bit by bit? it sure sounds like if one person is screaming and one person is not and trayvon martin, the unarmed 17-year-old boy who wind

mr. west in a sign of respect for the defense attorney. he's now boring in on probably the most important testimony. she said she heard trayvon martin say "get off get off." mr. west is pointing out this is inconsistent. >> is west being a bit combative anticipates few moments ago when he was pressing her on whether or not she could attest to the fact that trayvon didn't make some sort of physical motion towards zimmerman? >> i think his demeanor has been pretty patient, pretty good. but she's doing better today. and one thing i think is coming across that may be very difficult for the defense to shake. i think this witness is convincing the jury that trayvon martin was, in fact, being pursued by george zimmerman. now the separate question of whether it was trayvon martin who said "get off get off" that's being attacked very aggressively by the defense. not sure how that will turn out. as of right now i think the jury has the sense that george zimmerman was, indeed, following trayvon martin. >> one thing i want to play from earlier is rachel talking about whether or not she lied under oath. take a listen. >> you lied because you wan

one year, three months and 15 days after killing trayvon martin, george zimmerman is on trial for second-degree murder. mr. zimmerman has pleaded not guilty and claims he shot trayvon martin in self-defense. today marks a dramatic new phase in a case that drew national attention, one that is a long way away from that cold rainy night in florida when trayvon martin was killed. late this afternoon, lawyers for both sides began questioning potential jurors. these potential jurors are not being shown on tv in order to protect their identity. most of the questions focused on what they knew about the case from the media. >> have you read anything about this in the newspaper? how about on the internet? do you ever surf the internet? in terms of when you heard it or saw it on tv, was it a local broadcast or was it a national broadcast do you recall? >> i would like you to tell me one were to other things you have heard about this. if you're not watching channel 9, are there any national channels that you watch? i think you said you watch csi type shows on occasion. >> yeah. >> okay. any idea how close you conside

daryl parks, the attorney for trayvon martin's family, we have mr. parks with us. sir, let me get your reaction to this witness and how trayvon martin's family is doing as this is now going into the 15th day. >> well the family is, they're listening. they're watching what's taken place. they're very encouraged by what the prosecution's done so far, but as it relates to this witness today mr. good, i think he has not hurt them much in this case particularly although they tried to say he saw george zimmerman on top, he's also testified that he saw the person on top holding the person down, but also he does not describe the very graphic situation on the concrete that they had hoped. remember, in opening statement, don west said that he used the concrete as a weapon, and based on what i've heard so far here today it doesn't appear there was anything that would have put mr. zimmerman's life in danger. remember, this is a self-defense claim that he has to prove so unless he can prove there was eminent danger to him which i have heard nothing today that would demonstrate t

mr. martin was lying face down with his head oriented towards the north and his hands under his boy, sir. >> the den members of the jury basically sat expressionless during that sequence of some would say grotesque crime scene photos broadcast on the big jumbo screen in the courtroom. >> shepard: prosecutors today spent a lot of time on george zimmerman's neighborhood watch training. >> day two of this trial, the prosecutors really building their case that zimmerman was not much more than a cop wannabe, organizing and leading this neighborhood watch, in fact prosecutors painting zimmerman as that, bringing out the home owner's association president who testified that all in the neighborhood were instructed that if they saw suspicious activity, to stay away and call police. zimmerman, of course, followed trayvon martin through his neighborhood, telling the police dispatcher he looked suspicious because he was walking in the rain and looking around. which the prosecution mocked. >> we talk about the suspicious activity, suspicious person, not those exact words, no. >> was it discussed that

mr. martin had somehow identified your number as the last number and he called you about it. >> had talked. talked to trayvon. >> correct. that the numbers matched up. the last one on the list. >> yes. >> at that point did you know anything more about the case. >> no. >> you didn't know that by then george zimmerman had not been arrested? >> nope. i don't watch the news. >> nobody at schools, nobody said your friend trayvon martin was killed and the person that shot him hasn't been arrested. >> no. >> you had no idea. >> no. >> in anyiy vent -- in any event, how about at the wake that you talked about, i know -%u didn't go, but that was early march, correct, march 2nd or 3rd around there? do you know? >> march 2nd? >> you had some friends that went. >> yes. >> had anybody told you that had gone to the wake that they knew george zimmerman had not yet been arrested? >> they would have told me -- they did not know either. they would have told me. trust me, they would be texting me like crazy what was going on at the weakening. -- at the wakening. they would have told me, but they didn't told

mr. martin enjoyed fighting. >> but not beating people to death. >> let me finish what is evidence that heoyed. he enjoyed beating people until he saw enough blood, going back to attack people until he saw enough blood. he was very disappointed he had lost fights because someone had sat on top of him. he had an interest in guns, marijuana plants, drugs. >> how much is that relevant that on that night, a 17-year-old boy with no gun meets your brother, there's an altercation. if it hadn't been for the gun, they would probably have walked away. >> i think it's relevant to your question, because you said is it likely that is what would have happened? i don't know that would have happened. i think one had a proven propensity for violence and a history of participating in that kind of mma fighting and the other did not. so i think it's relevant to your question, and also to your point about guns in this country, piers. if your children or your high schoolers want to procure guns for themselves, legally or illegally at 17 years old and asking people to secure guns for them, we have a problem in t

mr. martin on the phone for a couple of minutes at this point? >> yes, sir. >> he was talking kind of low in a whisper? >> yes, sir. >> and he said he saw the man close to him? is. >> yes, sir. >> and then he decided to say to the man, why are you following me for? >> objection. asked and answered. >> this will be the last time that question is asked. >> yes, sir. >> and at that point you heard a response of some sort? >> yes, sir. >> either what are you talking about or what are you doing around here? >> what are you doing around here, sir. >> and that's when you heard what you described initially as a bump? >> yes, sir. >> when you talked to mr. de la rionda -- >> yes, sir. >> at one point in the interview you said to him, so the last thing you heard was some kind of noise like something hitting somebody. and your answer was yes. is that correct? >> yes, sir. >> like something hitting somebody, correct? >> -- sir. >> i'll say it again. the last thing you heard was a noise like something hitting somebody. >> like trayvon got hit -- trayvon got h

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