mr. matsuda? >> congresswoman, as you know aca implementation is a new project for all of us. so i wouldn't say cgi was engaged in identical projects but in terms of comprehensive system integration cgi -- >> mr. lee, did you consider cgi? you had a successful experience. did they apply it in central california? >> i actually don't think as i recall cgi did or was not one of the finalists for us. i don't know if they were a bidder but the folks that did bid didn't have direct experience. it was doing something new and you needed to look at general track record, cost, staff they provided factors like that we would endorse the selection. >> you know the district had a real heavy burden because congress in the spite amendment made members of congress and their staffs go to the exchange. took them out of the federal program. well it worked pretty well. now i got to go back and make sure they didn't use cgi. i think we have to look at these contractors and see what was the difference in the experience

mr. matsuda? >> as you know, aca implementation is a new project for all of us. i would not say cgi was engaged in identical projects, but in terms of comprehensive system integration, cgi -- >> mr. lee, did you consider cgi? think, as iy don't recall, cgi did, or it was not one of the finalists for us. they were a if bitter, but the folks who did the did not have direct experience. general to look at track record, cost, staff they coulded, before you endorse a selection. >> states had a heavy burden, because congress in a spite amendment, made numbers of congress and their staff go to the exchange and took them out of the federal program. it worked pretty well. kehave to go back and ma sure they did not use cgi. we will have to look at these contractors and see what was the difference in the experience with the contractors in particular. when you're doing something entirely new, which congress has not taken in consideration, it probably that you're asking contractors to do something they have not done, either. the problem with this is, we assume that contractors

mr. matsuda, you used cgi. what made you use his company that had that experience across a number of states? >> i was not with the hawaii health connector time the decision was made. but my understanding is that we went through a procurement process and they had been selected for the federal exchange. >> do any of you know whether cgi had experience doing this kind of work before? did anybody else at the table you cgi? had cgi had experience operable to this experience that you engage them to do? to your knowledge, ms. yang and mr. matsuda? >> as you know, aca implementation is a new project for all of us. i would not say cgi was engaged in identical projects, but in terms of comprehensive system integration, cgi -- >> mr. lee, did you consider cgi? >> i actually don't think, as i recall, cgi did, or it was not one of the finalists for us. i don't know if they were a bidder, but the folks who did the did not have direct experience. you have to look at general track record, cost, staff they provided, before you

mr. matsuda, i don't think you are there at that time. >> i will provide that on the record later. >> we have a document, and i will get your copy of it, it says for policy development, this is a piece that walks through, as far as how you're getting the core, as massachusetts was walking through this. again, i want you to get a copy of it. we can talk later. this is an august document, talking about the website and how things are working. browsing anonymously was a good. submitting an application was ago. eligibility determination no go. shopping, no go. enroll, no go. quoting information, no go. there were, of the 70 core functions, only five were -- 17 core functions, only five were assessed as a go in august. was there a conversation at some point to say, we have a lot of no gross here. here, let's stall, let's delay. if so, who that go to, to be able to say. we may need some extra time. >> a couple of things, mr. chairman. i can explain this document. this appeared to me with a steering committee minutes document to report the discussion that took place at the time. we did go throug

mr. matsuda, you used cgi. what made you use his company that had that experience across a number of states? >> i was not with the hawaii health connector time the decision was made. but my understanding is that we went through a procurement process and they had been selected for the federal exchange. >> to any of you know whether cgi had experience doing this kind of work before? did anybody else at the table you cgi? had cgi had experience operable to this experience that you engage them to do? to your knowledge, ms. yang and mr. matsuda? >> as you know, aca implementation is a new project for all of us. i would not say cgi was engaged in identical projects, but in terms of comprehensive system integration, cgi -- >> mr. lee, did you consider cgi? >> i actually don't think, as i recall, cgi did, or it was not one of the finalists for us. i don't know if they were a bitter, but the folks who did the did not have direct experience. you have to look at general track record, cost, staff they provided, before you

mr. matsuda become your batting off the beginning here. a little spring baseball conversation. ush to talk button. >> thank you, mr. chairman, ranking members, and members of the subcommittee to my name is tom matsuda made and accepted director of the hawaii health connector speaking on behalf of the connector and its board of directors its board of directors. hawaii has long been the leader to ensure that our residents have access to quality, affordable health insurance. in 1974, hawaii enacted a groundbreaking state law, the hawaii prepaid health care act. this law requires that most employers into why provide health care coverage to employees who work more than 20 hours per week for at least four consecutive weeks. hawaii's prepaid health act requirements are generally stricter than those of the federal affordable care act. as a result, hawaii has a little uninsured rate estimated at about 8%, or 100,000 individuals. because the state's law is a strong supporter by the people of hawaii, the aloha state authorized the establishment of a state based marketplace to harmonize the