mr. matthew gabe for sometime in hawaii where he's serving right now during this two-week period, doing had i active duty reserve duty. and he is serving in the judge advocate general's department in the navy and he's an 06 navy commander, a captain. for those of you who don't know in the military 06 captain is equivalent to what we call a full board colonel in the army. full colonel as opposed to lieutenant current. he has high qualification. he's been an attorney in the judge advocate general's area for a very he long time. he's serving right now probably adjudicating some -- the fate of some enlifted or an off certificate navy person. ~ enlisted. he's very familiar with the issues that are current -- post 9/11 veterans. he served in iraq adjudicating many cases there. he's very familiar with [speaker not understood] military issues and the problems and issues that have come up in court case he and so on within the military on that. so, i'm sorry that he's not here. he's sorry that he's not here, but we would really love to have him on this commission, and i advocate for his appointment.

mr. matthew gabe for sometime in hawaii where he's serving right now during this