mr. matula in being unreasonable for his opposition. the proargument has many truths. the board of supervisors have seen through this twice and denied permission to proceed. i've lived there for over 30 years and don't know of any of my neighbors in favor of this project. doctor matula is a reasonable man and doesn't deserve to be attacked for his opposition. what would you do if you were put in his position. in my opinion, regardless what you want to call it the issue is open space.i have lived in san francisco all my life, what open space is still available is a precious commodity. making a gift of something so valuable to a speculator for a 15 foot personal sidewalk which will be used for a driveway eventually is irresponsible and disregards the wishes of the neighbors. there was a hearing about a proposed driveway at 1410 stanyon street which was rejected. now we have a change in labels. the driveway is now called a 15 foot driveway. the driveway wasn't allowed to happen because of the recognition that our open space is disappearing. why should a 15 foot project be

taking a 15 foot sidewalk up here makes no sense whatsoever and it's unfair to the matulas and not legal. >> thank you. mr. brand, you have three minutes of rebuttal. >> a sidewalk that close to the house there would be no turning radius so that's r just not foing to happen. that's not the intention at this point. whatever happens with that will be way in the future because karen's planning on fibbishing this project and selling it. it is true. he's been trying to sell it for a long time now. hard to sell when you don't have access to it. doctor shoe said there'd been a bait and switch. we floated a whole bunch of ideas for the neighbors on how to make that driveway fly. we wanted to get a driveway in there, we offered park, we offered extra parking for the downhill neighbors, ones who don't have down hill parking, well thought maybe that would get people intrepsed. interested. there was no bait and switch. the final application we made wasn't the same as five of those ideas we put out there because we couldn't apply with all of them. yes, we were very clear we wanted a driveway. and the board of supervis