in my view, if skrequestration kicks in, we will lose the capabilities that mr. mavis referred to in some shipyards. when i do rough math, i'm looking at not 285 ships, i'm looking at 230 ships. we don't have enough structure to accrue that kind of savings without reducing procurement. so i'm very concerned about an industrial base that would be able to adjust from that, from sequestration. and it would be very difficult to keep a shipbuilder that could be efficient in the types of ships we need. >> say that again about 230 ships? >> we have 285 ships today. you do rough math, you look at the kind of numbers we talk about, and where i am today, you could end up -- it's just simple straight application of math -- we could be around 235 ships. >> mr. secretary? >> well, sequestration has two big problems, that there's been a lot of conversation about, a lot of testimony about before you. one is the amount, but second is how the -- how it is implemented without regard for strategy, without regard for priorities, and you simply have to take a certain percentage out of ever