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mr. maxwell, what was the intent of bringing the irs into the investigation? mr. maxwell: i think the republican side encompassed the entire range of the political spectrum on the republican party, from mac matthias and diction whites are -- and dick schweizer. for barry goldwater, the irs was a snake and he wanted to make sure it was part of the investigation and not shunted aside. that was not part of the case for priorities for the other senators. >> we only have a few minutes before we begin showing 40 full minutes of questioning of tom charles huston. i would like to have you kind of go back to that moment in time and particularly, the significance of people watching today. what is it that you would like people to think about this in terms of constitutional questions or americans' relationships with their government in review of this testimony? mr. schwarz: i think the american people should be bothered anytime the american government exceeded power and does so without the american government knowing what it is doing. so the american citizen should be free of

mr. maxwell: it was the untouchables, in a sense. all of a sudden, to think that the untouchables had been doing things that were so destructive, so wrong, so in violation of the was i think,y took , almost unimaginable at the start of the investigation. ms. swain: thanks to mr. maxwell and fritz shorts for setting the stage for this. schwartz for setting the stage for this. you are about to see the pbf broadcasting of this hearing, and it is anchored by paul duke, a familiar name to many of you watching. it is the edited highlights of testimony of deputy associate fbi director james adams. let's watch. >> from the outset today, it was plain that much of the interrogation would revolve around the committed disclosures yesterday of the attempts to discredit dr. king. an intensive campaign that was waged over a seven-year span. the hand of hoover was everywhere in the harassment of dr. king. adams told up 25 separate acts , acknowledging there was no legal basis for any of them. as we pick of the proceedings, adams is being questioned

mr. maxwell: i stayed to work on the permanent committee for a while. i had to make the decision whether i wanted to be a national security lawyer where, if i did everything right, only six other people would know i was successful, and if i did something wrong, it would be on the front page of "the washington post." that led to me doing other things. if i look at the arc of my theer, it probably is that last 14 years or so, i have been writing and speaking about openness and the importance of openness to have progress and innovation. i think probably the seeds of that were in the church was for awork, which young, not yet bar certified lawyer and extraordinary -- an extraordinary experience to engage at the deepest level questions of importance to the country. here it was, frank church and tower.oldwater and john if there were to be a discussion about the tensions between civil liberties and the needs of the intelligence community and the andr of government security, this is where these things should be fought out. this is where these things should be d

mr. maxwell, how did the church committee get started. what was the impet us? >> most of it came about because of the series of articles about activities by the intelligence community within the united uirsch in ten by cyh the post-watergate hearings, resignation of president nixon and still continuing concern about the vietnam war and the thought that the intelligence agencies were being directed against u.s. citizens led to some public concern and response from both the senate and the house to establish special committees to look at the intelligence activities overall. it was in that context that i think you need to place the activities of the committee and the response to things that happened during the vietnam war, the civil rights movement and other political activities led to the creation of these two committees. >> some people thought we would just expose more bad things about the nixon administration, but our single most important finding was to say that every one of six presidents starting with franklin roosevelt and running through nixon, four democra

mr. maxwell and mr. schwarz. you are about to see the pbf broadcasting of this hearing, and it is anchored by paul duke, a familiar name to many of you watching. it is the edited highlights of testimony of deputy associate fbi director james adams. let's watch. >> from the outset today, it was plain that much of the interrogation would revolve around the committed disclosures yesterday of the attempts to discredit dr. king. a campaign that was waged over seven years. the hand of hoover was everywhere in the harassment of dr. king. adams told up 25 separate acts acknowledging there was no legal basis for any of them. as we pick of the proceedings, adams is being questioned about an anonymous letter sent to dr. king in 1964. shortly before he received the nobel peace prize. a letter which some suggest was an attempt to induce suicide. democratic chairman frank church quoted directly from the letter. >> "king, there is only one left -- thing left for you to do. you know what it is. you have just 34 days in which to

mr. maxwell. let's watch. >> there are an awful lot of people who never got close to a nobel prize whose name is jones and smith that my review of the file show had violence done to their first amendment rights. and nobel prize winners will always get protection, but joe potatoes doesn't. this committee should focus on him, too. >> joe potatoes, quite a memorable reference by senator phil hart. we're going to show the entirety of this in a few minutes. would you give us a sense of what the atmosphere was like in that room at the time? >> i think it was electric. the extent of what the fbi had done was almost unbelievable. and it came against a -- a public backtrdrop about the fbi which was the crime busters, the elite police activities on the federal level, incorruptible, unbeatable, a bullworth of mesh institutions, and to think that these things had been going on below the surface and in such contrast to the image of the fbi was extraordinary. >> we should tell people, that image was propelled b