mr. mazzucco's life is not appropriate. if you want to have comments about the police department, fire away. >> you have to be in moscow. -- law school. >> this is not related to police business. >> you are finished. next speaker, please. >> good evening, how're you? >> i am pretty sure -- i am here regarding my son who was murdered august 14th, 2006 i would like to speak on this. my son was murdered by a semiautomatic gun. 30 rounds of bullets were fired. his birthday as coming up on april 6th. i am still out there fighting to get justice for my son. i'm speaking for other mothers and fathers of their. i need to keep going. i don't want my son to be forgotten. i don't want his case to be a cold case. right now, i am assuming that it is not. i am here as i am at the supervisors' meeting every tuesday asking again, they had all members that shot my son but they let him go. what more do we need to get justice for our children? what more do we need? i'm out here risking my life. it is my son, i will do that. what will we do wh

mr. mazzucco, and then we will go into the rest of the hearing. president mazzucco: thank you, supervisors. this has turned into my new favorite topic. we are not here as a quorum. the police chief selection process started in earnest on sunday, january 9, when the former chief was sworn in as our next district attorney. we had some perimeter set. realistically, there was coined to be a new mayor within a year. we had to put out the posting for a job that may only be a one-year job. with those constraints and those parameters, we move forward. our goal was to build on the foundation of the last police chief search. our goal was to get the best possible chief for san francisco within the short term from. a little bit of history before i go into this. there is a lot of concern. there is a lot of rumors. rumors are rampant in san francisco i have noticed lately. one captain sent everything is controversial, even if we remove a tree from a median barrier. in the old days, there was five police commissioners. all five were appointed by the mayor. when t

president mazzucco: mr. ortega? president mazzucco: madam city attorney -- >> if that is the agreed upon outcome, and you want this returned back to the chief, then we can do that. commissioner hammer: we can say that it puts it in a bad light, so do not do it again. that is the kind of talk that it may be. >> a verbal punishments, koran that is clearly in the spectrum. -- verbal punishments, that is clearly in this spectrum. commissioner hammer: we are not going to penalize someone for whom they associate, what, when, or why. a higher standard for our specialists. it shows them that judgment. the oral admonition that this commission be comfortable with. it is that judgment. but does this rise to the level of the commission charged? commissioner hammer: my recommendation would be to have it returned to the chief's level,

mazzucco: present. commission vice president marshall. vice president marshall: present. i>> commissioner james slaughte. >> slaughter. >> mr. president, you have a quorum. >> good evening. ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the wednesday, march 232011 regularly scheduled police commission meeting. would you please call line item number one, the tenant? >> that would be general public comment. the public is now welcome to address the commission on items that are not on the agenda that are within the subject matter and jurisdiction of the commission. speechspeakers shall direct ther comments to the commission as a whole. during public comment, neither police nor personnel nor commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public. they may provide a brief response. in addition, the police commission should refrain from entering into any debates or discussion with speakers during public comment. please limit your comments to three minutes. president mazzucco: thank you. good evening. >> good evening. my name is neil. i have spoken with you previously in the past. i have two items to talk to you about. one is