mr. mcaleer it was one particular problem. the issues you were detecting were a multitude of safety concerns unlike the safety switch which came later which was focused in one particular area. >> it's all over the vehicle, michael. but the correction -- the correction is what you do to the process. anybody who builds cars creates problems. there are always problems that are created in the production of a car. but you have to have a process that corrects that before the vehicle leaves the corporation's hands. >> my interview with bill mcaleer doesn't stop there. what happened next when he went to sue gm and how he believes all the horrific crashes and deaths could have been prevented. >> if that had been corrected in '98, if we had done a thorough check of our of our procedures and found out how safety defects were getting through none of this would have happened. and it's pretty simple. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and min

mr. mcaleer has become brave enough to come out and have the integrity to come out.ry for coming forward, and his persistance in trying to get the board and other managers and people in leadership positions to come and notice what he is doing and understand what he's trying to tell them but it looks like that didn't happen. >> finally, as gratified as i know you both are to hear a gentleman like this speak up who has spoken up repeatedly in the past albeit didn't garner a lot of attention, i'm sure that it frustrate you to know that there had to have been many employees who saw things on the inside and unlike bill mcaleer didn't take the time to write a letter to the entire board of directors. >> in mr. mcaleer's case he not only was ignored, he was penalized for not come -- for not keeping with the gm corporate culture. so, yes. we hope that others will come forward. we know there are other people out there that know more than has been said. we understand that the pressure they're under to keep their jobs, but if they will, we would hope they would come forward with