mr. mcalister. do you think that should mean he recuses himself on any decisions involving mcalister. >> it's easy to give an opinion one way or the other. i don't know all the facts there, his level of involvement, how involved he was in the charging decisions. i will say this. as a lawyer, you default to recusing yourself or building a firewall between you and even the appearance of a conflict of interest. it's a best practice. >> look, i think what everybody is hoping for is some sort of change in the wake of the tragedy, and i have to ask you, what do you expect as a result of what happened in this case might become different in san francisco or perhaps even california? >> you know, i got to change your question and say what would i like to see happen. i'd like to see a good model programs being implemented and at the same time hyper vigilance for the pup safety. people may not be satisfied with the traditional punitive criminal justice system but at the end of the day, you have a violent felony