mr. mcclain?>> a big problem with the air marshal mission is there is nothing going on which is a good thing there is no arrests happening and no casework happening, and as you would get in a cbp or border patrol station, you have hundreds of thousands of arrests, hundreds of drug cases happening, so the managers are busy and have things to do but when an air marshal commits an infraction it causes a huge ripple in the water and a lot of local managers don't want to make a decision on something so wait on headquarters to make it for them. a possible solution is to put the air marshals under the purview of a law enforcement agency. there is a huge amount of former border patrol agents and cbo officers in the air marshal service, and they feel like it was when they were under the ins, an agency that had conflicting missions and some were to initialize people, and then capture them. board manbored managers are looking for something to do. >> you would say to separate the two programs and empower -- r

mr. mcclain is a federal air marshal that blew the whistle about a tsa alter.rently a federal air marshal based out of the los angeles field office. >> thank you, chairman johnson and ranking member carper and other members of the committee. it's a great honor to be here as an active duty tsa federal air marshal. due to my case that finished before the supreme court four years ago, dozens of tsa federal air marshals come to me with their concerns about aviation security threats. this is a huge responsibility. being a voice for those who are tasked with stopping terrorism. many are tired of the complaints and want their tax money spent wisely on realistic measures. the 9/11 attack should have proved how volatile it is inside a pressurized tube traveling 40,000 feet up in the sky. the marshal's biggest concern bombs. if a terrorists group puts thought into it it's easy to sneak bombs on to jets to blow up at high altitude. that cargo includes food drink, condiments cooking oil and cleaning products and then all of the packaging that goes with it. then you have al

with me to discuss kiki mcclain former senior adviser for hillary clinton's 2008 campaign and sabrina schaefer. welcome to both of you. >> good morning. sabrina, you heard it mr. clinton said we're used to it. that is being accused of things. and the clintons have been accused of things like shady financial dealings even murder. will voters say, oh this noun dation thing is just one more thing thing? >> he's so talented as a public speaker he's able to brush off years of scandal with elegance and grace. the interesting thing is we have -- kiki and i were talking about this before we came on

with me to discuss kiki mcclain former senior adviser for hillary clinton's 2008 campaign and sabrina schaefer. welcome to both of you. >> good morning. sabrina, you heard it mrnton said we're used to it. that is being accused of things. and the clintons have been accused of things like shady financial dealings even murder. will voters say, oh this noun dation thing is just one more thing thing? >> he's so talented as a public speaker he's able to brush off years of scandal with elegance and grace. the interesting thing is we have -- kiki and i were talking about this before we came on air -- we haven't really gotten into a substantive debate on policies either on the republican side or the democratic side and so voters are paying attention to other kinds of cues things like trustworthiness, is this somebody i feel comfortable with who i can trust? right now that is something that's a problem for hillary clinton and we'll see, i think her husband may be correct as we get into the bigger debate this is an issue that voters will forget about, but right now it's top of mind. >> absolutely. and kiki it is interesting, mr. clinton is portraying his wife as the roc