mr. mcclelland is talking about, that golden age really ended in the 1970s. and even equality started to rise really precipitously in the 1980s. and then it actually started to decline somewhat in the late 1990s. and then it started to tick up again in the 2000. we had a brief period in 1990s when things were getting better. we have an idea of what might help inequality slow by looking back at the 1990. >> what would help? >> you had tremendous growth throughout distribution. so unemployment rates were very low in the late 1990s. 4% and even below 4%. so that was one major factor that produced a rise in living standards up and down the economic ladder. so one possible solution here of course is to try to grow the economy. so that everyone has a chance at a job that will put them into the middle class, and also give them the kinds of benefits that they would expect from a job such as healthcare and bench benefits. >> i want to talk about getting jobs in just a moment. josh, are you surprised more americans are blaming congress more so than banks and large corp