mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, at this time i'd like to yield three minutes to the gentleman from ohio, the author of the resolution, mr. kucinich. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from ohio is recognized for three minutes. mr. kucinich: we're in or out. unless this congress acts to claim its constitutional responsibility, we will stay in afghanistan for a very, very long time at great cost to our troops and to our national priorities. or we can set a date, december 31, 2010, by which we must leave. and this is exactly what the resolution seeks to do. congress has to be mindful of our responsibilities under this constitution, article 1 section 8, to claim responsibility for the casualties -- troop casualties which are now close to 1,000, to claim responsibility for the cost which is approaching $250 billion and together with the iraq war, close to $1 trillion. and this at a great cost to our priorities here at home. for housing, for job creation, for health care, for education. to claim responsibilit

mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, i yield myself such time as i may consume. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. mcgovern: i appreciate the gentleman from florida's comments. he spent a great deal of time trying to compare iraq to afghanistan. i would remind my colleagues that iraq and afghanistan are very, very different countries. different cultures, different levels of education, and different history of centralized government. in afghanistan there is no tradition, there is no history of a centralized government. comparing iraq to afghanistan is not comparing apples to oranges, it's like comparing oranges, it's like comparing apples to

mr. mcgovern: i give him one minute. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. yarmuth: they passed the bill but they didn't pay for it and now the c.b.o. says that that's going to add $8 trillion to our debt. so while the republicans say they've been concerned about solving america's health care problems, they really haven't done anything about it. and the one thing that sticks with me throughout this entire debate one year long, nobody on the republican side has ever said in any discussion that they had any interest in insuring the uninsured. those 47 million people, many of whom are going bankrupt, some of whom are dying, 18,000 a year are dying, almost a million a year going bankrupt, did they say anything about insuring the uninsured? not a word. so we're committed to providing the health care system america needs, wants and demands. we are going to do it this weekend. as i said before, this will be the proudest vote i ever cast on the floor of the house of representatives. i yield back. . the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields. the gentlewoman from

mr. mcgovern says. it kind of signals that they don't care about it but just carry it one step further and i ask my distinguished colleague and friend from florida does this measure as offered by mr. fisa in pact the deficit at all? >> i am not aware of that bible say that if the gentleman would yield. i will say that with regard to our distinguished colleagues not having been present today to testify, perhaps they believed the speaker when she said amendment would not be made in order. so, you know, but with regard to that -- >> reclaim my time to get just reclaiming my time. my friend, of course, understands that this matter is being treated as a conference report, and conference reports are never amended in this process. all of you are very much you that but to demonstrate what mr. mcgovern and i were talking about, the simple fact that you don't know what mr. issa's amendment does with the deficit suggests to me that you don't even know what the amendment is about that you are offering, and if you d

mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, this is an historic day for all of us in the house. we have the opportunity to enact real, meaningful health insurance reform that will improve the lives of millions of our fellow citizens. we can end the most abusive practices of the insurance companies. we can provide coverage to millions of hardworking families. we can bring down the cost of health care for families and small businesses. we can close the doughnut hole in medicare and extend the solvency of that vital program and pass the biggest deficit reduction package in 25 years. all we need is the courage to do what is right. today it is especially meaningful for those of us from massachusetts. as we all know seven months ooling our friend and mentor ted kennedy lost his battle with brain cancer. when he passed away, i said that while no one could ever fill his shoes, we can and we must follow in his footsteps and that is exactly what we are doing today. we have already taken important steps in massachusetts to deal w

mr. mcgovern and mr. hastings. regulate point to the horrible things that we did as a justification for the action that is about to be taken, whether it is using this process, which would use with great regularly, whether it's all kinds of things. and i'd like to just share with our colleagues again, the fact that when they now majority came to majority, it was the process of campaigning, they did so in large part attacking us on our record. and there was a document called a new direction for america. and this is what speaker pelosi ran on in a new direction for america. and i just like to share with our colleagues a couple of brief paragraphs from this item. the bills should come to the floor under a procedure that allows open, full and fair debate consisting of a full amendment process, that grants a minority a right to offer its alternatives, including a substitute. members should have at least 24 hours to examine bills in conference reports text prior to floor consideration. rules governing floor debate must be

mr. mcgovern. >> let's be clear. if we were to adopt the amendments it would be the senate is able to filibuster this measure. they wouldn't even have a vote on health care. we've been talking about health care reform, i think the majority of americans want america. we have been denied the right to vote because of the republican leadership in the senate. the republican leadership is used every single elementary move and manipulation. you know, i'm happy to be here all night. i'm happy to be here all night and vote on your amendments, mr. pryor. yes, i yield. >> let me just say that every single amendment that we are going to be offering this evening is to the reconciliation bill. >> well. >> and so it is not in any way due. what i said -- >> i will resay -- >> i will reclaim my time. i will restrait this is an attempt to try to derecall the legislation. this should be treated as the congress report. because the republicans choice not to participate, there is a clairefully negotiated agreement between the house and se

mr. mcgovern: mr. speaker, this is a matter that properly belongs before the committee of standards of official conduct. i move the question question the speaker pro tempore: without objection, the previous question is ordered on the motion. the question is on the motion to refer. those in favor say aye. those opposed, no. the yeas have it and without objection, the motion to reconsider to lay on the table. mr. flake: i request the yeas and nays. the speaker pro tempore: yeas and nays are ordered. members will record their votes by electronic device. this will be a 15-minute vote. pursuant to clause 8 of rule 20, this 15-minute vote on the motion to refer will be followed by five-minute votes on motions to suspend the rules with regard to h.r. 3542, h.r. 3509, house resolutlution 1173. this will be a 15-minute vote. [captioning made possible by the national captioning institute, inc., in cooperation with the united states house of representatives. any use of the closed-captioned coverage of the house p

mr. mcgovern. calling the vote by mr. mcgovern. >> aye. >> opposed, no. let's have a record vote. [roll call] [roll call] >> yes. the clerk will report the totals. this is agree to and i am so happy about it. i look forward to tomorrow. tonight we have voted 80 amendments. i don't know if that is a record or not but while we are checking on it at mrs. foxx's requests, and maybe we can find that. i will be carrying this for the geordie tamara. thank you all very much. this committee is now adjourned. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> the house rules committee has wrapped up their deliberation on amendments to the health care bill. you can watch the house live on c-span as they continue deliberations and votes on health care tomorrow with live coverage beginning at 1:00 p.m. eastern. we now return to >> historian andrew lewis presents a history of the student non-violent coordinating committee. better known as sncc. key members included julian bond, john lewis and marion barry. andrew lewis follows many of the

mr. mcgovern and mr. hastings. regulate point to the horrible things that we did as a justification for the action that is about to be taken, whether it is using this process, which would use with great regularly, whether it's all kinds of things. and i'd like to just share with our colleagues again, the fact that when they now majority came to majority, it was the process of campaigning, they did so in large part attacking us on our record. and there was a document called a new direction for america. and this is what speaker pelosi ran on in a new direction for america. and i just like to share with our colleagues a couple of brief paragraphs from this item. the bills should come to the floor under a procedure that allows open, full and fair debate consisting of a full amendment process, that grants a minority a right to offer its alternatives, including a substitute. members should have at least 24 hours to examine bills in conference reports text prior to floor consideration. rules governing floor debate must be

mr. mcgovern, no. mr. etheridge, no. miss mccollum, no. mr. yarmouth, no. mr. andrews, no. ms.yer row, no. mr. edwards, no. mr. scott, no. mr. langivin, aye. mr. larsen, no. mr. bishop, no. ms. moore, no. mr. connelly, no. mr. schrad event r. mr. moore, no. mr. ryan, aye. mr. hencer link, aye. mr. garrett. mr. diaz, aye. mr. simpson, aye. mr. mchenry, aye. mr. mac, aye. mr. campbell, aye. mr. jordan, aye. ms. lummis, aye. mr. aderholt, aye. mr. nunez, aye. mr. harper, aye. mr. latta, aye. mr. spratt, no. >> are there additional members who wish to be recorded? if not, the clerk will announce the vote. >> on that vote, the ayes are >> the health care committee finished its work on health care monday when the committee passed a reconciliation bill. the measure now goes to the rules committee wednesday to set the parameters of debate for the house floor. for more information, visit c- span.org/healthcare. >> "washington journal" is next where we look at today's news and take your calls. we will talk about the water preservation measure and a wilderness bill. coming up this hour, w

mr. mcgovern on this committee. it is clear to members on both sides of the aisle share my concern that this board threatens patient care, so why can't we agree to remove it on a bipartisan basis also? the american people deserve better than this proposal and i urge the committee to allow the consideration of this amendment on the house floor. i would like to have that submitted to the record. >> are there any questions? thank you. we appreciate you being here. mr. cassidy. >> thank you madam chair woman. they i ask unanimous consent the statement from our colleague mr. walden be iluded in the record, just before we hear from mr. cassidy? >> i ask unanimous consent that the statement. [inaudible] >> without objection. >> thank you very much. my amendment addresses health savings accounts. health savings accounts, they work. a lower cost, they are patient-centered, they incentivize healthy spending. for example kaiser family foundation kind of a left of center thinking did a study and they found that a family of four

mr. mcgovern, pete sessions luis slaughter. ms. matsui vote in favor in the committee.his language passed the house by a vote of 275 to 151 and six on this committee voted in favor. we owe to the american people to include protection against unwarranted denial of treatment reviewed by medical professionals and not paper pushers have never set foot in an examination room or treatment room. and the amendments offered from mr. martin. march 15th david axelrod state of the president doesn't believe state only notes or the president does not believe the state only votes should not be in the bill the president said special deals should come out so please allow mr. barton's amendments to be made in order they will help the president keep his word and save taxpayers billions. the first louisiana purchase, the amount is to remove the provision commonly referred to as the louisiana purchase which provides an extra $300 million to louisianans medicaid program. the second is speed 07. it would remove the provision referred to as the you, amendment that provides funds for a medical

mr. mcgovern, aye. ms. saunders, i. mr. anders, aye. mr. edwards, aye. mr. scott, aye. mr. bishop, aye. mr. connolly, aye. mr. more, aye. mr. edwards, aye. mr. ryan, no. mr. garrett, no. mr. simpson, no. mr. mechanic, no. mr. mack, no. mr. jordan, no. mr. austria, no. mr. harper, no. mr. spratt, aye. >> are there additional members who wish to be recorded? anybody wishes to change the vote? if not, the clerk will announce the vote. >> on that boat, the ayes 24, the no's 15. >> 21 aye and 15 no. the motion is agreed to. is there an additional motion on the republican side? you're recognized for nine minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. who would have thought in this great country we would have seen the things we have over this past year? who would that we could see the president of the united states fire the ceo of general motors? who would have thought that we could see this congress passed a $700 billion stimulus program that has not done anything? who would have thought that and the united states of america, we would have a pay czar telling private citizens how much money they can mak

mr. mcgovern could correct me if i'm wrong the sanction for an employer who doesn't insure is a lot less than the sanction of the plan i believe it is several hundred dollars and the evidence has been few and will years have dumped employers into what they call the connector in massachusetts. cbo looked at this carefully as a matter of fact i would say my friend from wisconsin -- the number of people -- let me say this the cbo analysis is the number of people covered by private employer based insurance will rise over the first ten years of this and i had the discussion when i was very skeptical about this to me it was counter intuitive that a sing should i felt was modest would have the effect of thyssen's sending people. in fact that is what has not happened and the real world examples of massachusetts which has higher premiums but a much lower sanction has not resulted in the dumping of employees the way the gentleman talks about yield back. >> never prejudge what she wants to do. cynics may i respond? i don't want to review, can't comment cbo was telling the number of people and emplo

mr. mcgovern to move the special rule to the floor for consideration, as that motion was being offered, i the press, 300-page amendment dropped in my lap, as did mr. sessions, mr. diaz-balart, and ms. foxx. we, within a matter of hours, considered that measure and it was a very important time, madam speaker, because that's when the american people got it. they began this chant, read the bill, read the bill. the next day we will all recall when the customary one minute was yielded to the distinguished minority leader, the gentleman from ohio, mr. boehner, he spent one hour going through the 300 pages in that amendment that members of this house had not yet read and had only had before them for a matter of a few hours. and i talked about that just yesterday when we were, for the second time in as many weeks, proceeding under martial law rule. i was arguing that that takes place at the end of a congress, when we're dealing with very, very pressing situations, not in the third month of the second session of the 111th congress, which is where we are today. so madam speaker, we once again have

mr. mcgovern. >> thank you.as as been said small businesses are the engine of our economy and that is where the jobs need to grow yet small business person after small-business person tells me, and i tell you, that they are being decimated by the high and constantly rising cost of health care. high health care costs have forced them to lay off workers and in some cases even go out of business. if we can remove the burden of these excruciating costs, then it will pave the way for more job growth. the three biggest issues we are faced with us here are jobs, jobs, jobs. health care costs are one of the reasons why we are not being more job growth in the small-business area. i have got to say one final thing and that is a comment that mr. simpson made and i think it is important that we have some clarity here. he was justifying why the senate , for why the republicans have been filibustering so fruitful in the senate and he said it was because there was no bipartisanship or no attempt at bipartisanship or go if i re

mr. mcgovern, aye. miss longis? >> aye. mr. etheridge? >> aye. >> miss mccollum? >> aye. >> mr. yarmouth? >> aye. >> mr. andrews? >> aye. >> mr. andrews, aye. miss deloro. aye. >> mr. edwards. >> no. >> mr. scott? >> mr. scott, aye. >> mr. larson? >> aye. >> mr. larson, aye. mr. bishop? >> aye. >> mr. bishop, aye. miss moore? miss moore, aye. mr. colonelly? mr. conley, aye. mr. schroeter? mr. moore? mr. moore? aye. mr. hensarling? mr. hensarling? mr. garrett? mr. garrett, no. mr. diaz ballard? >> no. >> mr. simpson? >> no. >> mr. mchenry? >> no. >> mr. mack? mr. mack, no. mr. campbell? mr. camp bel, no. mr. jordan? >> no. mr. jordan, no. miss llamas? >> no. >> mr. austria? >> no. >> mr. adderhalt? >> no. >> mr. adderhalt, no. mr. nunez? >> no. >> mr. harper? >> no. >> mr. latter? >> no. >> mr. sprat? >> aye. >> mr. spratt, aye. >> mr. ryan? >> no. >> mr. ryan, no. >> are there members who wish to record their votes who have not voted or change their vote? if not, the clerk will report the vote. >> mr. chairman, on that vote, the ayes are 21, the nos 16. >> there being 21 ayes an