mr. mckee's testimony from utah? >> yes, i did. >> he testified that essentially blm being 59% of the land mass in this county is really putting a crimp on their style and their ability to exploit natural resources because it is federally owned land and federally controlled land. would you comment and i know your first day on this particular set -- >> no, that's a very prolific region in terms of natural gas potential and development. and we've issued quite a few leases up there and quite a few apds. i think when it it comes to leasing federal land, we have other important responsibilities that we have to address in terms of biological, cultural considerations. so we go through a leasing process where we go into a full development process. we need to work with the operators and these jurisdictions will vary, depending on the sensitivity of these resources. i know between i think wyoming and utah, well, we have about 6800 apds that what we call front-logged that we have issued apds but the companies have not taken the